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Old 04-07-2008, 04:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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References to burning , drowning , cancer , eternal pain etc etc, The sort of thing you'll find in any crap gothic / metal poetry or lyrics
Then frankly, it's not possible to be not cliche

Singing about cancer, even as a metaphor or symbolism, AT ALL, is automatically a cliche? Just because they simply speak about an element that is commin within a cliche does not mean that they, themselves are cliche.

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Even so it's totally irrelevant because the lyrics you posted were English
I didn't post the english lyrics to show you they weren't cliche I posted the english lyrics to show that they are more articulate, even in thier second language, than american artists are in thier first.

You claimed they were cliche after that despite only seeing a small minority of thier lyrics
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Then frankly, it's not possible to be not cliche

Singing about cancer, even as a metaphor or symbolism, AT ALL, is automatically a cliche? Just because they simply speak about an element that is commin within a cliche does not mean that they, themselves are cliche.
No , the way they were doing it was , hence me calling it cliche

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I didn't post the english lyrics to show you they weren't cliche I posted the english lyrics to show that they are more articulate, even in thier second language, than american artists are in thier first.
Well in that case you failed

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You claimed they were cliche after that despite only seeing a small minority of thier lyrics
No, I claimed what you posted was cliche
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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No , the way they were doing it was , hence me calling it cliche

I claimed what you posted was cliche

You still haven't explained how. The band, even isolating thier German lyrics (aka 90% of thier lyrics), is simply talking about different topics like religion and death and sex, and saying thier opinions of them. The way you call them cliche makes me think it isn't possible to not be cliche by your standards.

And even after all of this 'cliche' nonsense, the band's sound is very noncliche, enough to warrent them thier own genre of music (Neue Deutsche Härte).
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And even after all of this 'cliche' nonsense, the band's sound is very noncliche, enough to warrent them thier own genre of music (Neue Deutsche Härte).
German nu-metal?
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German nu-metal?
Rammstein?
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:45 PM   #6 (permalink)
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German nu-metal?
Mixture of EBM, Industrial metal and techno (to put it in simple terms).

You either have no clue what nu metal is (hip hop/funk ispired metal) or you have never heard a NDH song (you've heard Rammstein haven't you? Not nu metal)...
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Mixture of EBM, Industrial metal and techno (to put it in simple terms).

You either have no clue what nu metal is (hip hop/funk ispired metal) or you have never heard a NDH song (you've heard Rammstein haven't you? Not nu metal)...
Dude, however you dress it up, it doesn't change the underlying fact here - that Oomph are rubbish and write about hackneyed trollop!
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Dude, however you dress it up, it doesn't change the underlying fact here - that Oomph are rubbish and write about hackneyed trollop!
Em, dude, they invented an entire new genre of music, show some respect?
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You still haven't explained how. The band, even isolating thier German lyrics (aka 90% of thier lyrics), is simply talking about different topics like religion and death and sex, and saying thier opinions of them. The way you call them cliche makes me think it isn't possible to not be cliche by your standards.
For the 3rd time now , I was commenting on the ones you posted
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