The Vines (singer, indie, pop, psychedelic, rock)

Molecules · 07-07-2008, 03:51 PM

What's the consensus around here on these one-time music press darlings?

I was a fanatic in the beginning, 'grew out' of them, discovered the 60's, then returned to their psychedelic/90's indie/grunge/pop sound last year. Seriously underrated I feel, but then the 60's guitar pop sound is a preference of mine. And they tick all the right boxes for influences (Suede, Nirvana, the Kinks, etc).

Their new album is streaming on myspaz; and so far sounds like there are a couple of throwaway bubblegum turds (the single) but I generally admire Nicholls' songwriting.

This is the singer butchering one of their space-rock standards in the 'media meltdown' period:
YouTube - 1969 - The Vines (Live at Big Day Out 2003)

EDIT: forgot to mention the harmonies!

Have a dreadful feeling I'm alone on this one...

lucifer_sam · 07-07-2008, 04:07 PM

They were pretty brilliant a couple years ago. I still don't really like them but they put a couple of okay albums out there (like Vision Valley). When they want to, they sound a LOT like the Beatles (especially the vocals). Check out their "Im Only Sleeping" cover. It's pretty good. Really hooked me when I was in, um, eighth grade.

Molecules · 07-07-2008, 04:17 PM

I'm with you on that, it was one of the best Beatles covers I've heard. They're the kind of music you play to your kids in the car really but **** it, Craig Nicholls has a good ear.

Having listened to 'Melodia' now I'd say it's nothing special, some great tracks on there if you dig all the stuff I was on about though.
Now if only they'd return to the old four-track sound... I do love their simplicity and the stoner overtones.

jackhammer · 07-07-2008, 04:24 PM

Cannot stand them TBH. The sort of music I call Chinga Chinga indie that goes nowhere fast and has been heard a million times before. Flavour of the month white boy guitar pop. Sorry!

Molecules · 07-07-2008, 04:30 PM

a dagger in my heart, jackhammer! But you've gotta love the Ride-sounding freakouts, the 60's songcraft...?

As my old dad would say: I'm not angry with you son, I'm just disappointed!

Urban Hat€monger ? · 07-07-2008, 04:35 PM

The mere name of this band fills my throat with bile.

jackhammer · 07-07-2008, 04:35 PM

Exactly though. I like Ride and they borrow again. A lot of British Guitar music goes in cycles and sometimes it is nothing short of tiresome. To be fair the fickle British music press are partly to blame. They hype things to death.

Son of JayJamJah · 07-07-2008, 04:40 PM

I don't enjoy their music, I've tried to, but I am overwhelmed with apathy by it. I don't think i am their target demo.

Molecules · 07-07-2008, 04:40 PM

yeah but everything sounds like something else these days. And yes the press killed this band commercially, yet BRMC, the Strokes and the White Stripes survived the 'New Rock Revolution' - each one ripping off the Jesus and Mary Chain, Television and Led Zep respectively.

I stopped reading the NME around that time because as a budding music fan you just weren't getting the whole picture, especially in this day and age where any 'movement' in youth culture is entirely contrived by the press and is a re-hash of some past innovation (nu-rave for example).

jackhammer · 07-07-2008, 04:43 PM

BRMC, the Strokes and the White Stripes

I don't like these though either!

07-07-2008, 03:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
Molecules daddy don't Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: the Wastes Posts: 2,577	The Vines What's the consensus around here on these one-time music press darlings? I was a fanatic in the beginning, 'grew out' of them, discovered the 60's, then returned to their psychedelic/90's indie/grunge/pop sound last year. Seriously underrated I feel, but then the 60's guitar pop sound is a preference of mine. And they tick all the right boxes for influences (Suede, Nirvana, the Kinks, etc). Their new album is streaming on myspaz; and so far sounds like there are a couple of throwaway bubblegum turds (the single) but I generally admire Nicholls' songwriting. This is the singer butchering one of their space-rock standards in the 'media meltdown' period: YouTube - 1969 - The Vines (Live at Big Day Out 2003) EDIT: forgot to mention the harmonies! Have a dreadful feeling I'm alone on this one... __________________ [SIZE="1"]Eff em tumble her Last edited by Molecules; 07-07-2008 at 04:23 PM.

07-07-2008, 04:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
lucifer_sam Unrepentant Ass-Mod Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,921	They were pretty brilliant a couple years ago. I still don't really like them but they put a couple of okay albums out there (like Vision Valley). When they want to, they sound a LOT like the Beatles (especially the vocals). Check out their "Im Only Sleeping" cover. It's pretty good. Really hooked me when I was in, um, eighth grade. __________________ first.am

07-07-2008, 04:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
Molecules daddy don't Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: the Wastes Posts: 2,577	I'm with you on that, it was one of the best Beatles covers I've heard. They're the kind of music you play to your kids in the car really but **** it, Craig Nicholls has a good ear. Having listened to 'Melodia' now I'd say it's nothing special, some great tracks on there if you dig all the stuff I was on about though. Now if only they'd return to the old four-track sound... I do love their simplicity and the stoner overtones. __________________ [SIZE="1"]Eff em tumble her

07-07-2008, 04:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	Cannot stand them TBH. The sort of music I call Chinga Chinga indie that goes nowhere fast and has been heard a million times before. Flavour of the month white boy guitar pop. Sorry! __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

07-07-2008, 04:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
Molecules daddy don't Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: the Wastes Posts: 2,577	a dagger in my heart, jackhammer! But you've gotta love the Ride-sounding freakouts, the 60's songcraft...? As my old dad would say: I'm not angry with you son, I'm just disappointed! __________________ [SIZE="1"]Eff em tumble her

07-07-2008, 04:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	The mere name of this band fills my throat with bile. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

07-07-2008, 04:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	Exactly though. I like Ride and they borrow again. A lot of British Guitar music goes in cycles and sometimes it is nothing short of tiresome. To be fair the fickle British music press are partly to blame. They hype things to death. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

07-07-2008, 04:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
Son of JayJamJah Occams Razor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: End of the Earth Posts: 2,472	I don't enjoy their music, I've tried to, but I am overwhelmed with apathy by it. I don't think i am their target demo.

07-07-2008, 04:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
Molecules daddy don't Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: the Wastes Posts: 2,577	yeah but everything sounds like something else these days. And yes the press killed this band commercially, yet BRMC, the Strokes and the White Stripes survived the 'New Rock Revolution' - each one ripping off the Jesus and Mary Chain, Television and Led Zep respectively. I stopped reading the NME around that time because as a budding music fan you just weren't getting the whole picture, especially in this day and age where any 'movement' in youth culture is entirely contrived by the press and is a re-hash of some past innovation (nu-rave for example). __________________ [SIZE="1"]Eff em tumble her

07-07-2008, 04:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	BRMC, the Strokes and the White Stripes I don't like these though either! __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”