Arya Stark

She'll never change. =P

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boo boo

If I tried dressing like that in public I don't think that would be a very effective excuse.

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Guybrush

Don't be naive, people. Lady Gaga is not one person, it's a whole team of producers and songwriters and designers and more.

I'm not saying that makes her music equal crap, but you can't credit everything she's done, is doing and will do in the future to Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta. While a lot of her is obviously in this Gaga personae, at the same time she's the puppet of all these other people who design her clothes, write her songs and produce her music.

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Goblin Tears

She writes all her own songs, lyrically, and composes the majority of the melodies and harmonies, then she goes to her music producers to make that transition from acoustic melody to pop-production. Even then, she participates in the production phase, by co-producing. No easy feat...anyway, artists who write and produce everything by themselves are far and few between. Prince springs to mind, but even he had some help with albums like Purple Rain.

Guybrush

As I wrote a couple of posts up, RedOne is sometimes credited for the Lady Gaga sound and he's not the only songwriter(/producer) she's worked with. There's also Akon, Rob Fusari, Martin Kierszenbaum, Brian Kierulf, Joshua M. Schwartz, Fernando Garibay, Nick Dresti, Rodney Jerkins, LaShawn Daniels and more.

Those are just some of the names of people who's put work and effort into what people normally just credit to "Lady Gaga". I guess you believe she sows her own outfits as well?

Again, I'm not saying this is rare and makes Gaga unique. I'm just saying to those who think it's genius, it's not just her genius. Lady Gaga is the work of several people who are very good at doing what they do and whose efforts together have produced a star with amazing market potential.

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Goblin Tears

The Beatles operated in a group. All bands do. Even artists like Björk, who are lauded with praise for their musical innovation, work in a songwriter/producer relationship. Enlisting the help of others doesn't really diminish the actual work an artist does, and in Lady GaGa's case, the majority of her compositions and songs are self-written. All the producers you mentioned worked with her on a track-by-track basis. The producers change on each track, but the only common demoninator on either of her albums is herself. By no means do I think she is a musical genius, and she may not be responsible for every nook and cranny, but she certainly deserves most of the credit.

Guybrush

Really? I already stated that being part of a team doesn't make Gaga unique and that it's already a common thing. You pointing it out - as if it somehow counters anything I've written - only makes it look like you haven't read my posts.

It's just a comment. She's more produced and marketed than most artists out there today. I haven't said she hasn't got talent. I'm just saying if you think her act is genius, include some praise for the designers, producers and songwriters If you don't think Lady Gaga is "designed" somehow, then I believe you are being naive.

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Goblin Tears

Well, if it's such a common thing, why is it only a problem for you when it comes to GaGa? Why are you singling out poor little Stefani? You may as well launch an attack on Björk and The Beatles, if you're trying to discredit people for working with producers and other people.

Britney Spears she is not. More marketed than most other artists? Absolutely. She's a pop-artist, so of course she's going to be more marketed than, say, an indie band. The Beatles were marketed like a box of Kellog's Rice Krispies too, so it has nothing to do with an artist's aptitudes. But in the mainstream pop scene, she's probably one of, if not THE least manufactured and least producer-dependant artists out there right now.

She is too arrogant to be anything but self-designed, and she simply orders her 'Haus of GaGa' around to make outfits etc. But it's obvious who is running the show, and more importantly, the music, which is her strongest suit imo. And I already said I didn't think she was a genius, so it's hardly me who isn't reading posts properly.

Anyway, Lady GaGa doesn't even hire any 'songwriters', so I wonder how much you really know about her.

Guybrush

I am mentioning Lady Gaga because we are in a Lady Gaga thread. I did not ever write that it was a problem. Neither am I trying to discredit people for doing it. What I know about her, I read on wikipedia.

I think you're distorting the meaning of my posts. You do strike me as getting a bit defensive ..

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Sansa Stark

Meh, why does it matter?

I personally could care less, I just really admire her as a performer, especially because of how she is with her fans. She does have a spectacular voice though, and if Again Again is her only song credit on the Fame, that's still a ****ing great song.