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View Poll Results: Best Gaga Album...?!?!
The Fame 5 41.67%
The Fame Monster 3 25.00%
Born This Way 4 33.33%
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:54 PM   #2161 (permalink)
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What do people think of her new song Judas? She released it just in time for some Easter sacrilege I'm actually not too much of a fan...hoping her other songs are better than that and Born this Way.
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Old 04-27-2011, 04:08 PM   #2162 (permalink)
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Which is like a gold medal in the special Olympics.
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Old 04-28-2011, 12:05 PM   #2163 (permalink)
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Which is like a gold medal in the special Olympics.
Not really, but ok.

Pop music may not be filled with musicians with technical proficiency or musical knowledge sky high, but some of the artists can sing, write, dance, and make some pretty catchy grooves.
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Old 04-28-2011, 01:21 PM   #2164 (permalink)
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I can't believe people are still comparing Gaga to Bjork. The only similarity is that they dress unusually, and Bjork doesn't always dress strangely for her concerts. Bjork is just a strange person by nature and it shows in her music, where as Lady Gaga does it more for shock value. If I were to have heard any of her songs before seeing her I would have just dismissed her as another pop star making bland music.



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It's more her creative team that does it for shock Value, not so much Lady Gaga herself. She may have some slight input but her creative team is the one that comes up with most of her outfits and things of that nature.
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Not really, but ok.

Pop music may not be filled with musicians with technical proficiency or musical knowledge sky high, but some of the artists can sing, write, dance, and make some pretty catchy grooves.
Pft... Go listen to Madame Butterfly if you want to hear singing. Opera blows pop music away in the sense that it forces the singers to exude massive amounts of power, discipline themselves in very strict prewritten melodies written via composer/piano. All a pop singer needs is to be loud, and clear, and they can(even if in most case they opt pitch correction. One of the reasons why pitch correction always confused me.) pretty much write the song on the keys they just happen to hit.

As for dancing, I'm not sure the schematics, but the rise in the density of dancing by an artist equates to the rise of the amount of lip syncing. As for catchy grooves... uh... basically it's mostly just simple drum machine programs with basic synth ambience layered over it, then voice layered over that. I don't really notice these 'grooves' you speak of in songs like 'Born this Way'.

I don't mean to be close minded, but pop itself is pretty much intentionally easy so it can be factory produced. Is there good pop? Yes. In the modern mainstream? very very little. Minimalist soft rock music has potential, strangely enough though, the best stuff is rarely truly applied to it's mainstream intention making it truly popular.

IE. Being the best thing in new pop is like winning the special Olympics. Seriously, her competition went from the Jonas Brothers to Justin Bieber.
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Pft... Go listen to Madame Butterfly if you want to hear singing. Opera blows pop music away in the sense that it forces the singers to exude massive amounts of power, discipline themselves in very strict prewritten melodies written via composer/piano. All a pop singer needs is to be loud, and clear, and they can(even if in most case they opt pitch correction. One of the reasons why pitch correction always confused me.) pretty much write the song on the keys they just happen to hit.

As for dancing, I'm not sure the schematics, but the rise in the density of dancing by an artist equates to the rise of the amount of lip syncing. As for catchy grooves... uh... basically it's mostly just simple drum machine programs with basic synth ambience layered over it, then voice layered over that. I don't really notice these 'grooves' you speak of in songs like 'Born this Way'.

I don't mean to be close minded, but pop itself is pretty much intentionally easy so it can be factory produced. Is there good pop? Yes. In the modern mainstream? very very little. Minimalist soft rock music has potential, strangely enough though, the best stuff is rarely truly applied to it's mainstream intention making it truly popular.

IE. Being the best thing in new pop is like winning the special Olympics. Seriously, her competition went from the Jonas Brothers to Justin Bieber.
She is classicaly trained in her defense. I find her music to be simple pop also, but she does perform well live and her stage shows are definitely extravagant. Its what pop audiences want to listen to, dance heavy tracks.
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She is classicaly trained in her defense.
Honestly, That's not a defense at all. It means that she's purposely limiting her potential for commercial success, and utilising it to maintain an unfair advantage over equally inane pop acts by feigning some element of legitimacy.
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Honestly, That's not a defense at all. It means that she's purposely limiting her potential for commercial success, and utilising it to maintain an unfair advantage over equally inane pop acts by feigning some element of legitimacy.
I guess its hard to feel like your limiting yourself when everyones telling you how great you are. I see your point in that she chose the easier of two paths however doing worldwide tours and selling out stadiums isn't exactly an easy thing to do even for commercial successes.
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Honestly, That's not a defense at all. It means that she's purposely limiting her potential for commercial success, and utilising it to maintain an unfair advantage over equally inane pop acts by feigning some element of legitimacy.
I agree with you 100% on that. Limiting yourself in order to become successful is a terrible thing to do. It also implies that the majority of people are too stupid to enjoy classical music, or any complicated music for that matter.
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