Farfisa

I've always found her to be boring and repetitive (in a bad way). People only find her interesting because she has a strange sense of style. She's just like any other pop artist out there in my opinion. I'm not dogging on people like Vanilla or anything, but I just find Lady Gaga to be boring and tasteless. That's only my opinion.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra

They have the same faults:

1) Writing insanely repetitive songs built on a very limited melody count.
2) nonsensical lyrics repeating ad naseum. Sometimes repeating the same sentence for 9 and a half hours.
3) Having limited creative spans, and exhausting their entire repertoire within one, or two albums. Chanced out with a freak hit album, and didn't really feel capable of capitalise off it as growing songwriters.
4) Using bold, offensive, colorful imagery to promote music which is structurally safe conservative pop.
5) Both utilise the illusion of rebellion to empower a system which is attempting to corpotize, market, and mass produce it.

Quit with this rockin' rocker nonsense. Gaga is pop, Cobain is pop. Both write shallow, catchy, hook laden songs that aim at instant accessibility over true depth. I like SOME Nirvana a little, but can easily admit that Cobain is massively overrated, and can see through the fact that the only reason you're choosing to bash Gaga is to maintain a macho rock fan aesthetic.

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Ben Butler

Personally, I think the lyrics of Kurt Cobain are far darker and so much more powerful than Gaga, actually meaning something. They suit the metal/alternative rock and grunge genre whereas Lady Gaga is plain weird for the pop genre and to claim pop is like rock? I don't get it man. He actually had talent, unlike some other artists such as Gaga. Oh, and another critical difference. He killed himself!

djchameleon

Did anyone watch her MonsterBall Concert on HBO?


I wanted to watch it to see the excitement from her fans and also any backstage type things that see may say.

I enjoyed the concert though, there are many unintentional laughs to be had if you guys decide to watch it.


There is this part where she stands up to tell her fans that they can be anything they want. blah blah blah but she's the most insecure person alive. It's funny that she is trying to preach that message to her fans, it's a good positive one but coming from a person that is insecure it doesn't seem to hold much weight. She's not paying attention to her own advice.

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Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra

Rock is a variety of pop. It largely employs catchy hooks, distinguishable clear lyrics, formula song structures. Elvis, in fact, was the prototypical pop star in every fashion. Singing skill, sex appeal, expensive costumes, merchandise, highly exposed shows.

Cobain was a pop star too. Albeit, maybe wanted to live by punk ideologies, but couldn't, which perhaps contributed to his inner struggles. Regardless, your argument for his case if flawed in 2 ways:

A) Cobain very much admittedly wrote songs with lyrics that literally made no sense. Sometimes entirely off the sound of words, and nothing else. I mean, he exposed us to such brilliant lyrical passages such as:

and the ever so logical:

Really REALLY coherent stuff going on there...

B) Gaga is going for irony, nothing wrong with that. It's the severe lack of any melodic ambition that kills her. If her actual music was as interesting as her themes/visuals than she'd be an amazing artist. However, her music is juvenile, and takes way to few risks. She's a lazy songwriter, who is more interested in collecting a check than anything.

However, she wants you to think she's weird, and be freaked out. All that does is empower her with shock value which allows her to continually to pimp her mindlessly one dimensional music. Cobain, albeit better(slightly) did the same thing even if he had a level of honesty which Lady Gaga completely lacks. Regardless, both are sort of placed on an unfairly high pedestal, and profit far more from the visual medium than their contributions melodically.

As for terms like "Talent", Cobain was a horrible singer, mediocre guitar player, and only a decent songwriter because he sheltered himself into a certain niche. Gaga may be a lazy songwriter, but she's both a talented singer, and a pianist. Again, though, she's worse in the sense she can't be a good songwriter because she's more concerned about collecting a paycheck than actually writing a good song which might break the formula, and potentially alienate an audience.

Again, backing down from her promise to shelve the gimmicks, and focus on the music only further proves this. Which is the reason why I so feverently despise her.

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djchameleon

Why does she need to alienate her fan base?

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Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra

It's not so much that I want her to alienate her fanbase, it's that I'm disgusted that the fear of alienating her fanbase prevents her from developing significantly musically.

Furthermore, I think she completely ripped them off by backing down from her own challenge.

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djchameleon

I'm pretty sure she will naturally develop over time and want to change up what she is doing.

She will also want to step out of the box and take risks but now isn't the time. She's only on her what? third album coming out soon.

Second in my books that little EP she released doesn't count as an album to me.

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Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra

I know bands/acts that spend their entire career's worth of developing in the span of 3 albums. At one album, that was an excuse. At two, yeah, ok. At three, no ****ing way, man.

If she doesn't break out with something truly brilliant by now, she's only proving herself as the ridiculously overinflated con artist she is.

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djchameleon

lol why are you rushing her to improve or experiment with her style?

There are bands that don't change up their style until their 5th or 6th album.

I don't see anything wrong with what she's doing. Maybe I'm just a blind fan that can't see it the way you see it.

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Fame, fortune, power, titties. People say these are the most crucial things in life, but you can have a pocket full o' gold and it doesn't mean sh*t if you don't have someone to share that gold with. Seems simple. Yet it's an important lesson to learn. Even lone wolves run in packs sometimes.