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NSW 04-23-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Whatsitoosit (Post 645136)
Farewell tour my hiney... as long as he has a pulse and a nose he will keep making a "come back". Anyway, we're going in circles... you are a die hard fan of the pop king and I'm not. Now beat it!!! Just leave me alone!!!!! ooooooooooooh, who's bad?

http://www.rense.com/general31/michaelj.jpg

Yep...shouldn't be too much longer now...

WWWP 04-23-2009 02:50 PM

Oh, my...

Molecules 04-23-2009 02:57 PM

jesus christ what if i had been eating?! That's classic abuse of public funds right there

Soulflower 04-23-2009 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Whatsitoosit (Post 645136)
Farewell tour my hiney... as long as he has a pulse and a nose he will keep making a "come back". Anyway, we're going in circles... you are a die hard fan of the pop king and I'm not. Now beat it!!! Just leave me alone!!!!! ooooooooooooh, who's bad?

LOL Ya'll are funny. God forbid anybody defend Michael Jackson it makes them a crazed fanatic... please.. Just let Michael do his thing(his going to do it regardless so just chill out). His back and his concerts are successful... stop hating point blank.

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-23-2009 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 645421)
LOL Ya'll are funny. God forbid anybody defend Michael Jackson it makes them a crazed fanatic... please..

7 posts all on the same artist in the same thread and with not even an ounce of criticism and without a hint of irony or humour.

No I can't think why you might be perceived to be one either.

Scarlett O'Hara 04-24-2009 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Molecules (Post 645160)
jesus christ what if i had been eating?! That's classic abuse of public funds right there

I am currently holding a potato chip in my hand, things are not looking good. He's like...furry.

SATCHMO 04-24-2009 02:27 AM

It's been 25 years since he's put out an album of redeeming value. He owns the publishing to Beatles' music so why would he possibly want to publicly humiliate himself anymore than he already has by doing another tour?

Whatsitoosit 04-24-2009 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 645421)
LOL Ya'll are funny. God forbid anybody defend Michael Jackson it makes them a crazed fanatic... please.. Just let Michael do his thing(his going to do it regardless so just chill out). His back and his concerts are successful... stop hating point blank.

of course he will do what he wants. Do you think I had the notion he may show up in this thread, read whatsitoosit's comments and decide to call off the tour? Why you always Wanna Be Startin' Something... you're so Off the Wall and I no longer wanna Rock with You. Must be Human Nature, perhaps next time you should just Keep it in the Closet. Otherwise you better Give in to Me as you can't Heal the World This Time Around.

ok, I'm done.

peterbaby7 04-27-2009 09:04 AM

wew

Whatsitoosit 04-27-2009 09:34 AM

it's, whew.

Whatsitoosit 05-04-2009 01:18 PM

allow me to kick this dead rotten corpse of a horse please :)

so I'm listening to Dangerous and HIStory the other day and noticed how thin and raspy Mikes voice sounded in comparison to Off the wall and Thriller. I guess Bad is somewhere in between, leaning more towards the better. Is this as a result of his surgery's? he sounds like he is constantly trying to clear his throat instead of actually singing. Anybody else notice this? I mean it's not unlistenable, it's just an observation.

boo boo 05-04-2009 02:48 PM

Yeah I know what you're talking about.

Bad and Dangerous are great albums but IMO they lack the freshness of Off the Wall and Thriller, the deep tracks on those albums were just as tight as the singles. But with Bad and Dangerous the singles are the real highlights.

I loved the production of Thriller, I thought the mix of real instruments and synths gave it a really crisp sound. Bad is a lot more polished, with more emphasis on synths and it lacks the R&B flavor of his previous albums, and IMO Jackson is at his best when he does funk and soul. With his later work he was making more of a crossover to rock and more traditional pop music, which was still good, but he was no longer at his peak, that will always be Thriller for me.

richard001 05-04-2009 03:20 PM

Michael jackson would always remain a classic singer. I still give respects to his songs and his dance steps.

LyMoon 05-07-2009 02:39 PM

Hi everybody!

I have a question for you...

Few years ago (10 years or smth like that) I had a chance to watch a MJ video on MTV or some other euro-music-video TV station. I have no idea what was it, maybe it wasn't even a music video but some kind of music-special, but I do remember it was veeeery loooong (I think it was over 30min.), and I remember a deserted castle at night, and I KNOW there was a lot of dancing...

Has anyone seen this video? Do you know what it is or where to find it?

boo boo 05-07-2009 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LyMoon (Post 654556)
Hi everybody!

I have a question for you...

Few years ago (10 years or smth like that) I had a chance to watch a MJ video on MTV or some other euro-music-video TV station. I have no idea what was it, maybe it wasn't even a music video but some kind of music-special, but I do remember it was veeeery loooong (I think it was over 30min.), and I remember a deserted castle at night, and I KNOW there was a lot of dancing...

Has anyone seen this video? Do you know what it is or where to find it?

I know exactly what you're talking about. It's a short film called Ghosts. It was made by special effects wizard Stan Winston and based on a story by Stephen King.

Enjoy:








SATCHMO 05-07-2009 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 652399)
Yeah I know what you're talking about.

Bad and Dangerous are great albums but IMO they lack the freshness of Off the Wall and Thriller, the deep tracks on those albums were just as tight as the singles. But with Bad and Dangerous the singles are the real highlights.

I loved the production of Thriller, I thought the mix of real instruments and synths gave it a really crisp sound. Bad is a lot more polished, with more emphasis on synths and it lacks the R&B flavor of his previous albums, and IMO Jackson is at his best when he does funk and soul. With his later work he was making more of a crossover to rock and more traditional pop music, which was still good, but he was no longer at his peak, that will always be Thriller for me.

Agreed. Off the Wall and Thriller are great everything after that was garbage. MJ rode the crest of his first 2 albums for about 20 years

boo boo 05-07-2009 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO (Post 654584)
Agreed. Off the Wall and Thriller are great everything after that was garbage.

Now now, that's not what I said at all, Bad and Dangerous are still very solid albums, I'm just saying they're not the masterpieces that Off the Wall and Thriller are, I still like them a great deal.

HIStory is pretty lame though.

SATCHMO 05-07-2009 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 654590)
now now, that's not what i said at all, bad and dangerous are still very solid waste albums,

I get Ya' :)

boo boo 05-07-2009 04:00 PM

Yeah well HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!!

Oh......





http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...0802/rukia.jpg

I see what you did there.

Soulflower 05-08-2009 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 654590)
Now now, that's not what I said at all, Bad and Dangerous are still very solid albums, I'm just saying they're not the masterpieces that Off the Wall and Thriller are, I still like them a great deal.

HIStory is pretty lame though.


While Thriller is a good album I think critics rank it tooo high as far as Jacksons best works. I exactly think Dangerous and even Bad are better.


History is exactly pretty good. The album is full of diversity and solid tracks. Not his best but still good.

coryallen2 05-08-2009 11:48 AM

The best song by MJ would have to be Beat It. LOL. Thats a good tune. XD

SATCHMO 05-08-2009 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 655175)
While Thriller is a good album I think critics rank it tooo high as far as Jacksons best works. I exactly think Dangerous and even Bad are better.


History is exactly pretty good. The album is full of diversity and solid tracks. Not his best but still good.

This just might be exactly the craziest post I've ever read exactly.

Antonio 05-08-2009 12:18 PM

I just want to say that Michael Jackson in the 80s was the equivalent of GOD


that is all :D

Whatsitoosit 05-08-2009 12:33 PM

HIStory has some good moments on it, SOME being the key word here. Maybe 3-4 quality tracks on disc 2. Disc 1 doesn't count.

boo boo 05-08-2009 10:47 PM

I also wish people would start giving Jackson some credit as a songwriter, granted a lot of his songs were written by other people. Some of his biggest hits were written solely by him. That includes

Don't Stop Til You Get Enough
Billie Jean
Beat It
Wanna Be Startin' Something
Bad
Another Part of Me
Smooth Criminal
Dirty Diana
Black or White
Who Is It

People need to remember that it wasn't ALL Jones and Temperton.

scottsy 05-09-2009 09:23 PM

I agree that his status was undeniably god like until the early nineties when the worm started to turn against him, as it tends to do with any megastar... the whole court case thing did him no favors either... his story actually has some pretty tragic elements to it....

Soulflower 05-09-2009 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO (Post 655210)
This just might be exactly the craziest post I've ever read exactly.

LOL Thriller is ONE of Jacksons best works but its not his bestest overall. Like some have said already the albums after Thriller were just as good and for some even better. Critics and people always say Jackson best works is everything pre Thriller when that is not true. Everything up until Dangerous was pretty solid. I liked History to though. I liked all of Jackson's works but like with any artist he had/has he share of sucky tracks.



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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 655544)
I also wish people would start giving Jackson some credit as a songwriter, granted a lot of his songs were written by other people. Some of his biggest hits were written solely by him. That includes

Don't Stop Til You Get Enough
Billie Jean
Beat It
Wanna Be Startin' Something
Bad
Another Part of Me
Smooth Criminal
Dirty Diana
Black or White
Who Is It

People need to remember that it wasn't ALL Jones and Temperton.

His a great songwriter and he also has had his share in producing as well.

Right.

It kills me how just because Quincy and Temperton helped produce and maybe wrote one or two songs that people think ALL the credit is theres when in fact Michael wrote most of the songs and the songs he did wrote were the HITS. Michael wrote the entire BAD album on an exception of only 2 songs which were "Just Good Friends" and "Man in the Mirror". On every album Michael's writes over 100 songs and narrows it down. He does most of the writing. He just decides to incorperate other people in his projects. So its not like he does nothing himself lol which some arrogant music lovers love to agrue.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-09-2009 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 656066)
He does most of the writing. He just decides to incorperate other people in his projects. So its not like he does nothing himself lol which some arrogant music lovers love to agrue.

If you actually read the discussion you'll see that most of this was said when the question of the individual merits of Jackson & Prince came up. And it was said for the most part that for the reason that Prince writes & produces virtually all his own stuff that was a plus point in his favour over Jackson. I don't recall anyone saying Jackson does nothing , just that he relies on a production team and certain songwriters to help him out. Something you've not disputed either, so how does it feel knowing you're agreeing with 'arrogant music fans'?

SATCHMO 05-09-2009 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 656066)
LOL Thriller is ONE of Jacksons best works but its not his bestest overall.

Yes, your right. His previous album Off the Wall was better. Still compared to these 2 albums everything after is commercial pop drivel. It's not even fair to use talk about them in the same sentence as Off the Wall and Thriller, so I won't.

boo boo 05-10-2009 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO (Post 656094)
Yes, your right. His previous album Off the Wall was better. Still compared to these 2 albums everything after is commercial pop drivel. It's not even fair to use talk about them in the same sentence as Off the Wall and Thriller, so I won't.

Blah.

IMO, Off The Wall and Thriller are 5 stars and Bad and Dangerous are 4. Not that much of a gap in quality.

Disc 2 of HIStory is pretty blah. I have to agree with Urban on how mindnumbingly awful Earth Song is.

I haven't heard Invincible but having heard the singles I intend to keep it that way.

So I disagree with you strongly on Bad and Dangerous, they lack the R&B flavor but I think they were excellent pop albums. Sure Dangerous had the epic sh*tfest that was Heal the World, but the rest of the album is so damn good that it makes up for it... Well, almost.

Jackson's true decline (musically that is) started with HIStory, what a bloated mess.

Moss5385 05-10-2009 04:09 AM

honeslty, mj last good album was bad. Some people blame his life style for effecting his work. I believe even if MJ didn't have all the craziness in his life, his popularity still would of declined. He hasn't been able to re-invent himself to keep up with modern times, Invincible was a sad attempt. I agree he is great talent and he is one of greatest artist in history. Of the wall is an amazing album but his time is over.

Soulflower 05-10-2009 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 656078)
If you actually read the discussion you'll see that most of this was said when the question of the individual merits of Jackson & Prince came up. And it was said for the most part that for the reason that Prince writes & produces virtually all his own stuff that was a plus point in his favour over Jackson. I don't recall anyone saying Jackson does nothing , just that he relies on a production team and certain songwriters to help him out. Something you've not disputed either, so how does it feel knowing you're agreeing with 'arrogant music fans'?


Well... I dont feel anything. You can take it any kind of way you want to take it. If the shoe dont fit, dont wear it. I never mentioned anybody said that on here even though there ARE some arrogant music lovers on here. The statement was "general" so that would tell you opinions on Jacksons music are made everyday BESIDES opinions on this forum.

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 656148)
IMO, Off The Wall and Thriller are 5 stars and Bad and Dangerous are 4. Not that much of a gap in quality.

Disc 2 of HIStory is pretty blah. I have to agree with Urban on how mindnumbingly awful Earth Song is.

LOL I agree to. I just feel Jackson made other great works and classics with his other albums as well which does not get as much recognition as Thriller.

LOL @ "Earth song": you can not base an entire album off of ONE song.

I liked History but thats just my personal opinion. Not Jacksons "best" but it still had it share of quality works which always get over looked like some of his other songs after Thriller.

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 656148)
I haven't heard Invincible but having heard the singles I intend to keep it that way.

Dont go by singles. You should listen to the entire album. Its not Jacksons best work but it was highly underrated as for certain tracks.

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 656148)
So I disagree with you strongly on Bad and Dangerous, they lack the R&B flavor but I think they were excellent pop albums.

Agree.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-10-2009 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 656312)
Well... I dont feel anything. You can take it any kind of way you want to take it. If the shoe dont fit, dont wear it. I never mentioned anybody said that on here even though there ARE some arrogant music lovers on here. The statement was "general" so that would tell you opinions on Jacksons music are made everyday BESIDES opinions on this forum.

Oh yes of course, even though you're talking about a discussion that was happening here earlier you weren't actually referring to any of that discussion at all or the people who posted in it.

Nicely backtracked :laughing:

boo boo 05-10-2009 11:16 PM

I think the reasons people use to criticize Jackson as a musician are very dumb, especially when they bring up the child rape stuff, but also not giving him any credit as a songwriter, Billie Jean is his defining moment and he wrote it, and also the Prince comparisons, Jackson not writing ALL his songs, not playing any instruments, etc, dumb crap. The kinda thing that should make every motown singer a talentless hack.

If you're gonna jump on Michael Jackson, at least let it be for the right reasons. Which is writing We Are The World, Heal the World and Earth Song. If THAT's why you hate Michael Jackson, then I can't blame you. :laughing:

SATCHMO 05-11-2009 12:10 AM

Tags: baby dangler, history, old pervert lol

boo boo 05-11-2009 02:29 AM

Yeah I was gonna point that out.

Mojo 05-11-2009 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 656148)
Blah.

IMO, Off The Wall and Thriller are 5 stars and Bad and Dangerous are 4. Not that much of a gap in quality.

Disc 2 of HIStory is pretty blah. I have to agree with Urban on how mindnumbingly awful Earth Song is.

I haven't heard Invincible but having heard the singles I intend to keep it that way.

So I disagree with you strongly on Bad and Dangerous, they lack the R&B flavor but I think they were excellent pop albums. Sure Dangerous had the epic sh*tfest that was Heal the World, but the rest of the album is so damn good that it makes up for it... Well, almost.

Jackson's true decline (musically that is) started with HIStory, what a bloated mess.

I really like Dangerous too. It does get a lot of stick though. It's very true that Heal The World is awful and the album does trail off in quality towards the end I feel which is disappointing but the first few tracks are actually very good in my opinion. It was the first MJ album I owned which may have something to do with it, I loved it when I was younger. I still feel he did well to successfully move with the times on that record without selling himself short.

Whatsitoosit 05-11-2009 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by scottsy (Post 656055)
I agree that his status was undeniably god like until the early nineties when the worm started to turn against him, as it tends to do with any megastar... the whole court case thing did him no favors either... his story actually has some pretty tragic elements to it....

The worm generally turns when careless choices are made.

Stargirl_Jackson 05-13-2009 02:43 PM

I love Michael Jackson!!!!


Alll of his music is incredible and I think his voice is honestly freaking angelic!
Pure perfection.

And yes, I'm of one those Wacko FOR "Jacko" fans"

SO **** YOU if u hate him :P lol

But Michael rocks!

And I'm going to the This Is It tours YAYAYAY!!!

aug.17th! ahhh

Son of JayJamJah 05-13-2009 05:18 PM

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Abusive Father

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Don't drop that Baby


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