Have you lost hope in mainstream music?

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 04-19-2011, 07:24 AM

Mainstream pop is great for teenage girls and angsty boys. It's what makes clubs fun to be slutty.

Herocon · 04-19-2011, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I'm not a fan of Katy Perry or Kanye West but they both play traditional instruments so they're probably not the best examples to use if you're going to trot out the worn out old "live instruments = talent" argument.

I was referencing a certain song Kanye West and Katy Perry did together, ET. it is currently one of the top songs on iTunes. And it's pretty horrible. But hey! It's catchy (I guess).

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-19-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Herocon

Do you think pop will always be the ****ty auto-tuned, computer-generated crap we often hear on the radio? Or do you think, by some incredible feat, one day popular artists will miraculously begin using instrumments in their songs? I can't really enjoy a song unless it's produced by musical instruments, and not computers. As catchy as it may be, it just doesn't get my attention.

Things were no different in the past.

Instead of using autotune they just used session musicians. Loads of 'mainsteam pop' of the so called golden age of the 60s & 70s had bands that didn't even appear on their own recordings, let alone manipulate them to sound better.

Ben Butler · 04-19-2011, 12:56 PM

No, I have not. There is a lot of good mainstream music out there with talented artists. It is the record labels that need to change because they are too money motivated and turn the poor artists into a money making product, almost as if they are not human.

Herocon · 04-19-2011, 02:46 PM

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almost as if they are not human.

zombies :o

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 04-19-2011, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tore

F.ex off the top of my head, I can only think of one single that sold well that was in an untraditional time signature and that was Pink Floyd's Money. I assume that trend will continue into the future

In the 90s it wasn't too uncommon. I mean with bands like Tool mysteriously bursting into the mainstream(one I could never understand myself. I respect what they do, but how exactly a mainstream audience ever grasped them is a mystery to me), and a few of the 'grunge' bands experimented lightly in odd time signatures. Soundgarden's 'Spoonman' is a key example. Speaking of Seattle...

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Originally Posted by Ben Butler

No, I have not. There is a lot of good mainstream music out there with talented artists. It is the record labels that need to change because they are too money motivated and turn the poor artists into a money making product, almost as if they are not human.

Or turn mediocre artists into legends after they commit suicide...

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

Mainstream pop is great for teenage girls and angsty boys. It's what makes clubs fun to be slutty.

I thought that was cocaine...

Guybrush · 04-19-2011, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Skaligojurah

In the 90s it wasn't too uncommon. I mean with bands like Tool mysteriously bursting into the mainstream(one I could never understand myself. I respect what they do, but how exactly a mainstream audience ever grasped them is a mystery to me), and a few of the 'grunge' bands experimented lightly in odd time signatures. Soundgarden's 'Spoonman' is a key example. Speaking of Seattle...

Spoonman is indeed a good example. I would still say charting singles with odd time signatures is an uncommon occurrence, even in the 90s. I'd even call it very rare. Basically, if you take all the charting singles (even when taking just those from the 90s) and see how many percent have odd time signatures, I think you'd get a very low number

Herocon · 04-19-2011, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Skaligojurah

In the 90s it wasn't too uncommon. I mean with bands like Tool mysteriously bursting into the mainstream(one I could never understand myself. I respect what they do, but how exactly a mainstream audience ever grasped them is a mystery to me), and a few of the 'grunge' bands experimented lightly in odd time signatures. Soundgarden's 'Spoonman' is a key example. Speaking of Seattle...

There seems to be a massive gap of musical talent in the 90s for me. There was a lot of bands/artists that came out with a hit single, and people would say, "They're the next best thing!" but then the said band/artist fail to function under the pressure, and collapse never to be heard of again. Belly's psychedelic "Feed the Tree" was a good example. The band came out with one hit, and then vanished off the face of the musical world, never to be heard of again. (I still don't know what the hell 'Feed the Tree' is about.)

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 04-19-2011, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Herocon

There seems to be a massive gap of musical talent in the 90s for me. There was a lot of bands/artists that came out with a hit single, and people would say, "They're the next best thing!" but then the said band/artist fail to function under the pressure, and collapse never to be heard of again. Belly's psychedelic "Feed the Tree" was a good example. The band came out with one hit, and then vanished off the face of the musical world, never to be heard of again. (I still don't know what the hell 'Feed the Tree' is about.)

Albeit, I think 99% of 90s bands are massively overrated, that was a neat thing about the 90s. You had no idea where the next 'hit' song came from.

Herocon · 04-19-2011, 06:58 PM

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Albeit, I think 99% of 90s bands are massively overrated, that was a neat thing about the 90s. You had no idea where the next 'hit' song came from.

True, but then again, you never knew when that same artist was on their way out the door.

04-19-2011, 07:24 AM	#31 (permalink)
Scarlett O'Hara Make it so Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,181	Mainstream pop is great for teenage girls and angsty boys. It's what makes clubs fun to be slutty. __________________ "Elph is truly an enfant terrible of the forum, bless and curse him" - Marie, Queen of Thots

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Ben Butler Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Rudheath Posts: 393	No, I have not. There is a lot of good mainstream music out there with talented artists. It is the record labels that need to change because they are too money motivated and turn the poor artists into a money making product, almost as if they are not human.