Is Pop Music Really So Simple?

derek · 05-20-2017, 12:11 AM

making the rock vibe in kpop still amazes me...

derek · 06-17-2017, 12:01 AM

oh the twist....surprise surprise

Dylstew · 06-17-2017, 06:06 PM

Pop music isn't really a genre on its own, it's kind of an adjective genre where it changes the kind of sound of another genre into something more accessible, digestible and catchy. You can turn edm into pop, hip hop into pop, r&b into pop, rock into pop, punk into pop , post-punk into pop (new wave), jazz into pop, ska into pop, etc. And then you can also take a middle route and mix the two. Plus ofc sounds change over decades.

I believe there is some music we just deem 'pop" but I deem that as something that is poppy but lacks an existing genre tag so we call it pop.

The Batlord · 06-17-2017, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylstew

Pop music isn't really a genre on its own, it's kind of an adjective genre where it changes the kind of sound of another genre into something more accessible, digestible and catchy. You can turn edm into pop, hip hop into pop, r&b into pop, rock into pop, punk into pop , post-punk into pop (new wave), jazz into pop, ska into pop, etc. And then you can also take a middle route and mix the two. Plus ofc sounds change over decades.

I believe there is some music we just deem 'pop" but I deem that as something that is poppy but lacks an existing genre tag so we call it pop.

Dude, "pop" is just Madonna and her descendants.

Dylstew · 06-17-2017, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Dude, "pop" is just Madonna and her descendants.

Madonna is not a genre Batlord

The Batlord · 06-17-2017, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylstew

Madonna is not a genre Batlord

As far as dance pop goes, which is modern pop, she was definitely an innovator.

**Goofle** · 06-17-2017, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylstew

Pop music isn't really a genre on its own, it's kind of an adjective genre where it changes the kind of sound of another genre into something more accessible, digestible and catchy. You can turn edm into pop, hip hop into pop, r&b into pop, rock into pop, punk into pop , post-punk into pop (new wave), jazz into pop, ska into pop, etc. And then you can also take a middle route and mix the two. Plus ofc sounds change over decades.

I believe there is some music we just deem 'pop" but I deem that as something that is poppy but lacks an existing genre tag so we call it pop.

Is Dance-Pop a genre? Because if it is, Pop kinda needs to be a genre. But I do kind of agree that Pop is a bit of a weird one compared to other genre descriptors because it's so widespread. Hip Hop is pretty defined, even with how broad it is. The same common themes don't really exist within Pop.

Dylstew · 06-17-2017, 07:46 PM

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Is Dance-Pop a genre? Because if it is, Pop kinda needs to be a genre. But I do kind of agree that Pop is a bit of a weird one compared to other genre descriptors because it's so widespread. Hip Hop is pretty defined, even with how broad it is. The same common themes don't really exist within Pop.

The issue is that pop as "popular music" doesn't work because there's sounds that undoubtedly sound pop to us by lesser known bands, but if we try to define a pop sound it is so widespread we can't come up with any defenition not too narrow or too wide. What is certain however is that we can pop-ify pretty much any genre. I mean for example, a lot of pop music these days is some kind of electronic music with catchy melodies sung over it.

derek · 06-22-2017, 09:38 PM

several genres in one song.

innerspaceboy · 06-22-2017, 10:12 PM

The best answer I can offer to this question is THE MANUAL: How To Have a Number One The Easy Way. The KLF followed their text to the letter, had a number one hit, and were forgotten in months just as the book promised.

99.9% of pop is simply the application of a formula. Nothing more.

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06-17-2017, 06:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
Dylstew Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,366	Pop music isn't really a genre on its own, it's kind of an adjective genre where it changes the kind of sound of another genre into something more accessible, digestible and catchy. You can turn edm into pop, hip hop into pop, r&b into pop, rock into pop, punk into pop , post-punk into pop (new wave), jazz into pop, ska into pop, etc. And then you can also take a middle route and mix the two. Plus ofc sounds change over decades. I believe there is some music we just deem 'pop" but I deem that as something that is poppy but lacks an existing genre tag so we call it pop.