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JohnnyK 12-17-2005 11:59 AM

The Steven Wilson Thread
 
This thread is for general discussion of Steven Wilson, Porcupine Tree, Opeth, No Man, and any of his other main/side projects. :thumb:

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candyquasar 07-06-2008 12:59 PM

whaaa........??
 
I can't believe that no one has posted anything about Steven Wilson yet... I think Steven Wilson is amazing, his music is very inspiring. I first got into his music last summer when my boyfriend gave me a Porcupine Tree cd, In Absentia. So beautiful, Collapse the Light Into Earth is my favorite, and I'm actually listening to it right now.. :hphones:

I would recommend buying Lightbulb Sun by Porcupine Tree to anyone who would like to experience Steven Wilson. Also, visit his myspace page, he has links to all of his other bands there...


jackhammer 07-06-2008 01:36 PM

We have a Porcupine Tree thread here:

http://www.musicbanter.com/classic-r...pine-tree.html

but a dedicated Wilson thread is a good idea too, considering the mass of side projects he is in.

Rainard Jalen 07-06-2008 02:35 PM

My main issue with Steven Wilson, to be totally honest, is the point that he can be perceived as coming across as self-satisfied and arrogant. I saw a documentary on the makings of Opeth's Deliverance and Damnation, both of which Wilson produced. He seems to be insinuating that his own project's music exists on a higher plane.

jackhammer 07-06-2008 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen (Post 495569)
My main issue with Steven Wilson, to be totally honest, is the point that he can be perceived as coming across as self-satisfied and arrogant. I saw a documentary on the makings of Opeth's Deliverance and Damnation, both of which Wilson produced. He seems to be insinuating that his own project's music exists on a higher plane.

Where did you catch this? I would be interested in watching this.

Rainard Jalen 07-06-2008 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 495571)
Where did you catch this? I would be interested in watching this.

It's called Lamentations. It is an interesting documentary. It is available on um... DVD : ). I think you'll see what I mean when watching the Wilson interview parts of the show.

lucifer_sam 07-06-2008 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen (Post 495569)
My main issue with Steven Wilson, to be totally honest, is the point that he can be perceived as coming across as self-satisfied and arrogant. I saw a documentary on the makings of Opeth's Deliverance and Damnation, both of which Wilson produced. He seems to be insinuating that his own project's music exists on a higher plane.

Have you heard anything that comes out of the mouth of Eric Clapton, Little Richard, or Chuck Berry at any time? I think most successful or influential musicians are somewhat bigheaded or egotistical. I understand Steven Wilson isn't on their level, but you gotta admit, he's pretty accomplished himself. And if he's insinuating that, it's probably true...

The Unfan 07-06-2008 07:03 PM

The first step to being a succesful musician is knowing how amazing you are in comparison to everyone else.

Inuzuka Skysword 07-06-2008 08:12 PM

Does everyone know Steven Wilson will produce the next Anathema album? I cannot wait to see how it will end up...

Anyways has anyone seen this:

Steven Wilson owns Mikael Akerfeldt of Opeth in a Prog Quiz

I mean, I like Opeth and Mikael Akerfeldt more than Steven Wilson, (though the tour with DT made me a bit mad that Akerfeldt could go that low,) but that was just embarrassing. I thought it was fun to watch...

Rainard Jalen 07-06-2008 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 495585)
And if he's insinuating that, it's probably true...

C'mon, you know as well as I do that that is a ridiculous thing to say.

boo boo 07-07-2008 03:14 PM

Not as ridiculous as calling Porcupine Tree one of the worst bands to come out of England in recent times because they kinda sound like Pink Floyd.

Antonio 04-14-2009 12:17 AM

IMO, Steve Wilson is brilliant, i'm addicted to Porcupine Tree right now

kthedrummer 04-14-2009 07:55 AM

Porcupine Tree sounds a lot like Pink Floyd on Sky Moves Sideways and the stuff before it has a resemblance...But In Absentia, Deadwing, and Fear of a Blank Planet sound very different than Floyd although they show the influence of Floyd and a number of other bands...Blackfield doesn't really sound like Floyd at all to me...I agree that it helps your success to know you are good because confidence is a huge factor in making good music imo.

jackhammer 04-14-2009 10:30 AM

Have you heard the huge amount of side projects this guy has I.E.M and Bass Communion have been two recent listens for me. Very Space Rock-esque.

LoathsomePete 04-14-2009 11:01 AM

I've only heard Blackfield, but I'll definitely look into some of the ones you mentioned Lee.

As far as Porcupine Tree is concerned, I listened to their entire discography with headphones last night, I don't really recall any bizarre dreams or anything, but it was good music to listen to while I slept.

boo boo 04-14-2009 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kthedrummer (Post 637664)
Porcupine Tree sounds a lot like Pink Floyd on Sky Moves Sideways and the stuff before it has a resemblance...But In Absentia, Deadwing, and Fear of a Blank Planet sound very different than Floyd although they show the influence of Floyd and a number of other bands...Blackfield doesn't really sound like Floyd at all to me...I agree that it helps your success to know you are good because confidence is a huge factor in making good music imo.

A lot of bands start out imitating someone else, that's always how it is.

The Beatles started out as just another skiffle group, David Bowie started out as a writer of novelty pop/folk songs, The Beastie Boys started out as a generic hardcore band, Genesis started out as a Monkees type pop group, Nirvana started out as a Melvins clone, Radiohead started out as a wannabe grunge band.

Of course all these artists ended up finding their own voices, I think PT found theirs starting with Stupid Dream.

The Cat 04-14-2009 01:37 PM

A very talanted man with many talanted fingers in many great sounding pies!

boo boo 04-14-2009 01:39 PM

What's this about Steven Wilson putting his fingers in someones pie?

333 04-14-2009 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 637950)
What's this about Steven Wilson putting his fingers in someones pie?

Have you seen the DVD? It's obvious he put his fingers in someone's piehole before performing "Arriving Somewhere ... ".

The Cat 04-14-2009 01:55 PM

with his production on Opeth's Blackwater Park he has definatly put his influence in (ok maybe not his fingers!) as there are some Porcupine Tree styles in there but he does play guitar, piano and vocals as an additional musician.

spark10036 04-14-2009 03:13 PM

the man is the best thing that happened to progressive music in a long time...however I don't get his obsession with Israel, it's pretty weird...

ChiliColdBlood 04-15-2009 12:10 PM

The upcoming tour with King's X should be sweet.

The Cat 04-15-2009 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiliColdBlood (Post 638695)
The upcoming tour with King's X should be sweet.

Definatly one i will be checking out:thumb:

Johnny_Tsunami 06-02-2009 10:27 AM

Alright, I'm new to this forum (first post actually) and if there's one thing to be known about me, it's that I idolize Steven Wilson. The man is such musical genius it's disgusting, definitely the Beethoven of modern progressive rock music. And yeah he's extremely pretentious and self-satisfying, but that doesn't mean the music he makes isn't amazing!

Anyways, just thought I'd mention Porcupine Tree has a new album coming out, although that's probably old news to a lot of you guys. But yeah he says that the album is going to be comprised of a single 55 minute long track, and there is a possibility it will be a double disc album. So one disc would be entirely devoted to the single song, and the other disc would have the song broken apart into seperate tracks plus a few additional songs. And all that is due to be released some time in September! I'm extremely excited and curious to see how it will be different from FoaBP; maybe a departure from the heavier music? Who knows, but I have very high hopes for this album!

If anybody has more information regarding the album, or any other Steven Wilson project I would be most pleased to hear about it!

Rock on music fans!

Antonio 06-02-2009 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiliColdBlood (Post 638695)
The upcoming tour with King's X should be sweet.

really? two great bands i'd love to see

Comus 06-02-2009 12:09 PM

I really don't like this guys music or production. For me the Wilson Opeth albums sound so dull. As does Porcupine Tree's albums. I love the video where he owns Mikael at a prog quiz though.

Petula07 01-12-2010 04:14 PM

I like Steven. I don't call him genius but I admire his ability to have many music projects and make more music styles. It fits to my diversity so for me his music is something what I was looking for. :bowdown:

What do you think about his solo album Insurgentes? Is here somebody who likes it?
My fave songs are Harmony Korine, Only Child and Abandoner.








And what about NSRGNTS RMXS - Insurgentes remixes?
My number one is definitelly Abandoner - Danse Macabre Mix.


jackhammer 01-12-2010 04:58 PM

I haven't yet heard the Insurgentes remix album and there were only a couple of tracks from the original album that grabbed my attention. Venemo Para Las Hadas was my favourite off the album.

mrguy 04-11-2010 03:19 AM

Insurgentes is fantastic.

How many projects (ones created-so not production jobs or featuring on an album) does the man actually
have? I can't seem to find a reliable source...

Petula07 04-11-2010 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mrguy (Post 848403)
Insurgentes is fantastic.

How many projects (ones created-so not production jobs or featuring on an album) does the man actually
have? I can't seem to find a reliable source...

Hi, you have really long reply in thread of Porcupine Tree ;)

The right source is his official web page - Steven Wilson Headquarters

mrguy 04-12-2010 07:14 PM

Thanks.


Hmm, he uses a lot of distortion on the album...probably a little too much. What was he doing? Sitting in the studio with his keyboard set to distortion, thinking "hmm... This songs getting a little boring...I know! DISTORIIIION *sits on keyboard*. Yeah"?

Petula07 04-13-2010 11:12 PM

Well, yeah... This album is something what he wanted to do but it didn't fit into his other projects. So Insurgentes is the result :)

mrguy 04-13-2010 11:25 PM

It's really great. I think I may like it more than any PT album! And that's saying something....

Is there a follow up planned?

Petula07 04-15-2010 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrguy (Post 850026)
It's really great. I think I may like it more than any PT album! And that's saying something....

Is there a follow up planned?

I don't know. SW is very busy so everything is possible but who knows when? Nobody.

Hmm, I love Insurgentes too but I wouldn't say more than PT. The same.

Try albums with names Cover version, Cover version II, Cover version III, Cover version IV, Cover version V, Cover version VI :D
Cover versions and his own songs. It's not as great as Insurgentes but still good music.

mrguy 04-15-2010 07:43 PM

Okay, thank you!
I saw them on headphone dust, and I wasn't really sure what they were.

Petula07 04-18-2010 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petula07 (Post 851166)
Try albums with names Cover version, Cover version II, Cover version III, Cover version IV, Cover version V, Cover version VI :D

So finally I am listening to these albums for the first time. Wow, I love this man!

I think it is a must for all SW fans... or better say for all fans who want to understand why Wilson has so extensive musical taste :)
It's really different than Insurgentes and if you hate pop, maybe you won't like it. It's pop, experimental, electronic..... That's Steven ;)

Here is the list of songs... First one is cover version, second song is by SW.

CV I - Cover Version (Alaniss Morissette - Thank You)
CV I - Moment I Lost
CV II - Cover Version II (ABBA - The Day Before You Came)
CV II - Please Come Home
CV III - Cover Version III (The Cure - A Forest)
CV III - Four Trees Down
CV IV - Cover Version IV (Momus - The Guitar Lesson)
CV IV - The Unquiet Grave
CV V - Cover Version V (Prince - Sign 'O' The Times)
CV V - Well You're Wrong
CV VI - Cover Version VI (Donovan - Lord Of The Reedy River)
CV VI - An End To End

mrguy 04-23-2010 06:21 PM

Did you download or buy?
I cant find a download anywhere....

Well, I found one, but it's going at less than 1kB/s...

Petula07 04-24-2010 09:25 AM

Mrguy, please, wait till Monday and I will send you a message :)


Now I started to like band OSI. OSI - MySpace
I realized that one song on their first album is sang by Wilson. It's song shutDOWN.


mrguy 04-25-2010 11:33 PM

Thanks Petula :)

Dr_Rez 04-26-2010 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petula07 (Post 852633)
So finally I am listening to these albums for the first time. Wow, I love this man!

I think it is a must for all SW fans... or better say for all fans who want to understand why Wilson has so extensive musical taste :)
It's really different than Insurgentes and if you hate pop, maybe you won't like it. It's pop, experimental, electronic..... That's Steven ;)

Here is the list of songs... First one is cover version, second song is by SW.

CV I - Cover Version (Alaniss Morissette - Thank You)
CV I - Moment I Lost
CV II - Cover Version II (ABBA - The Day Before You Came)
CV II - Please Come Home
CV III - Cover Version III (The Cure - A Forest)
CV III - Four Trees Down
CV IV - Cover Version IV (Momus - The Guitar Lesson)
CV IV - The Unquiet Grave
CV V - Cover Version V (Prince - Sign 'O' The Times)
CV V - Well You're Wrong
CV VI - Cover Version VI (Donovan - Lord Of The Reedy River)
CV VI - An End To End

Why the **** is ABBA/LL Cool J in the Hall Of Fame while bands like Motorhead and Iron Maiden are not? Thats about as cool as telling Gore e lost after winning the popular vote.


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