Very well done. That's brilliant.

I think you should mention that no-one is allowed to comment on Queen's classification until they've heard more than the greatest hits. Otherwise, I know there will be retarded people jumping on and claiming that Queen is a pop band because of Another One Bites the Dust and Radio Ga Ga.

That would be like saying Yes are a pop band because of Owner Of A Lonely Heart and Leave It. ;)

Agreed.

PS. I wish i could have bolded the bands whose material i own on MP3, but i couldnt keep it under the 10000 character limit, and im like Quentin Tarantino, i hate to edit....Im off for now, tomorrow i will give a complete list of bands whose songs i have on MP3.

I will keep bumping this thread until its a sticky. :pimp:

PS. I apologise for the short in the title, lol.

Too late.

Good job. A very good read.

YES!!

No prunk!? Jeez ;)
Very nicely done though.

sorry i ididn't sticky it. i got off right before you pmed me i guess.

anyway, well done. and very long. haha.

EDIT: oh and Dragonforce is prog metal. and amazing at that!

This has actually helped me out a lot .... me being a guy who is very interested and loves the Genre of Prog and all of its Sub-Genres ... ... My favourites are Jethro Tull, KingCrimson, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Symphony X, Muse, YES, Frank Zappa, Pink Floyd, and Rhapsody...their may be some in which i had forgotten but those are some of my favourites

Is Coheed and Cambria really proggy? Or just the last album?

And no ATDI? :(

I only have a few suggestions, such as that you might want to mention Birdsongs of the Mesozoic under avant-prog, because they seem to typify that genre better than a couple of the bands you mentioned. Also, Slint is a really important Math Rock band, so you probably don't want to leave them out.

A great read, a little biased towards punk (you don't shed light on the other side of the argument, being that progressive rock was pompous and self-indulgent), but overall a great overview.

I believe you mean "biased against" rather than "biased towards".

Anyone who has questions about a certain band and weither or not they qualify as prog should feel free to comment on this thread.

Yeah.. by "towards" I meant "regarding," as opposed to "in favor of," but you're right... GRAMMAR NAZI!!!

Im not biased against punk rock, i dont know how i could be, since i happen to like a good deal of punk rock....The Ramones are one of my favorite bands, and Alexisonfire made a point when he said that The Ramones were so anti-progressive that they were in a way progressive themselves, dont get the wrong idea, they are not prog, rock that is progressive isnt automaticly progressive rock, sounds a little like a oxymoron there but being progressive rock isnt as simple as its title suggests.

The reasons i didnt focus very much on the punk rock communities point of view is because i didnt want to go off topic and because i didnt have enough room due to the 10000 character limit.

Still, you should notice that i never debunked the claims about prog being pretentious by saying they were not true, nor did i ever say they were true, i basicly left that to the reader to decide, since its a matter of opinion anyway.

It's just that this part:

made it seem a bit biased against punk, and sorry, I missed the part where you adressed people seeing prog as pretentious and self-indulgent.

I mention it several times, especialy when i explained the main reason prog lost its popularity in the 70s, people clearly got tired of its overexposure, the same fate that punk rock (or what is labeled as punk rock) is suffering today, its a continuing cycle.

Also the things i said about punk was not a negative subjective remark, but a objective fact, i never said being sloppy or basic was bad, but from a technical point of view most punk is basic in structure, and there are few punk musicians that would be considered "virtuoso's"...This is a undisputable fact, i never meant it as a negative remark...And i certainly didnt say that punk rock was lacking in quality because of this fact, not at all.

Don't worry. I didn't mean that you were biased at all. I was just being a grammar nazi :laughing:.

Very nice. I didn't realize that there was so many genres. There needs to be one of these education thread for every forum. :)

There doing 'em =)

Anyway, i should have done this earlier, but oh well, here are a list of bands whose material i have on MP3, so if you havent heard much from these bands and would like to, you can either IM me or i can hook you up through PM.

Aphrodites Child
Arena
Atomic Rooster
Barclay James Harvest
Blackmores Night
Brand X
Buckethead
Camel
Can
Captian Beefheart and The Magic Band
Caravan
Colosseum
Curved Air
Dream Theater
Egg
Eloy
Emerson, Lake and Palmer
Focus
Frank Zappa
Genesis
Gentle Giant
Gong
Greenslade
Hawkwind
Howe, Steve
Il Balletto Di Bronco
IQ
Jethro Tull
Jon Anderson
King Crimson
Magma
Mahavishnu Orchestra
Marillion
Matching Mole
Mike Oldfield
Nektar
Opeth
Ozric Tentacles
Pink Floyd
Porcupine Tree
Premiata Forneria Marconi
Primus
Procol Harum
Queen
Queensryche
Quintessence
Radiohead
Renaissance
Rhapsody
Roxy Music
Rush
Sigur Ros
Soft Machine
Spocks Beard
Strawbs
Symphony X
Tangerine Dream
The Flower Kings
The Mars Volta
The Moody Blues
The Nice
Tool
Traffic
UK
Uriah Heep
Utopia
Van Der Graff Generator
Vanilla Fudge
Yes

And you can also find free music from other prog artists mentioned on the first page here.

http://www.progarchives.com/

^ Clean out your inbox.

since you haven't I'll request them here.

Can I have some Symphony X and Rhapsody please?

www.yousendit.com works best, unless the music is already loaded online somewhere

Done...I have some stuff from both bands but not a whole lot of material, what do you have from them already?

I own every Symphony X album..........soooooo good

I have lately gotten into The Mars Volta.....a band that a while ago i had no intent on liking at all...things change and this was for the better

Awesome...I love them too, i can hear the Floyd and Crimson influence quite prominately.

Yeah in parts i hard some Crimson coming out in there breakdowns and whatnot

Pain Of Salvation are good:)

Definitely an eerie feel to them.

Damn.

Wish there was a way to keep this thread lively. :(

That review was impressive and helpful, thanks.

No prob. :)

Do you have the album "Be"?

Nah, I saw you mention them in the sharing thread though and I was going to ask for some too but thought I'd better wait til my plate is a little less full.

Is Be their best/only album?

I think they have multiple albums...but my friend was telling me about one of the concepts in that album and it was like about how if god was one of us who lived on earth he would be just as confused as we were...something along thopse lines and it kind of intrigued me......so i thought id check it out.....no torrents for it either

So if anyone has any albums of Savatage I would be interested. I have three songs floating about "Conversation Piece", "Chance" and "Turns To Me".

"Conversation Piece" - is a good song. Rather funny in a way, when he sings "...Over a cup of Tea", the way it relates to the song title. Good instrumentation.
"Turns To Me" - is a brilliant track too. It's soft and hard, alternating between the two rather well. The guitaring is awesome and thankfully not overdone.
"Chance" - starts out in a rather orchastreal/symphonic(?) manner with chimes and what-not, then rolls into some good metal. This is pretty sweet prog metal. The vocals are clear and solid when singing low key, and manly when the music asks them to be.

I love this band. So why the hell have I only got 3 songs then... *Goes to download*

Albums people:D

Oh and LesPaul, if you don't already, I would say you'll love these guys.

OK cool......ill go download some right now..any ones in particular you are fond of?

Well i just checked them out.....They're decent i guess...maybe they have to grow on me.its kind of boring to me....but i still really wanna hear that "Be" album

Yeah I dunno eather I downloaded a couple more songs and it started to get a bit too much for me. But I still wouldn't mind an album. I just thought you'd like them since they're similar to Symphony X in many ways.

Yeah i see where youd be coming from....the majority of my friends that listen to music similar to me like them a lot

The first post was well-written. Props to boo boo for writing it.

3 latest prog albums
1. Good Apollo I'm Burning Star IV, Vol. 1: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness
2. in keeping secrets of silent earth : 3
3. The second stage turbine blade
All from Coheed and Cambria...great albums
I also just got the King Crimson Discography (downloaded that though)

:)