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Trollheart 05-27-2012 04:59 AM

OK boys and girls, guess that's it then: Yes wins by a margin of 6/4 over Floyd.

Next battle:

Caravan --- In the land of grey and pink
https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/im...qsbn2ji07KVXkw

vs

Khan --- Space shanty
https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/im...6YP3w6qpx4epfQ

I know neither albums, so this is new territory for me.

Let battle commence!

Howard the Duck 05-27-2012 05:08 AM

i don't have that Khan album

lemme download it first

Unknown Soldier 05-27-2012 05:40 AM

Same here don't know the Khan album but it will have to be very good to beat Caravan.

Guybrush 05-28-2012 06:25 AM

It's definitely one vote to In the Land of Grey and Pink from me.

In the Land of Grey and Pink - 1
Space Shanty - 0

Howard the Duck 05-28-2012 06:53 AM

got that Khan album

yes i can hear the similarities with that Caravan

good choice for a fight

Salami 05-28-2012 09:07 AM

I've given the Khan one a listen, and although I've heard similar ideas mirrored very well, "In the Land of Grey and Pink" is a hands down winner for me as well!

In the land of grey and Pink - 2
Space Shanty - 0

Trollheart 05-28-2012 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1193357)
got that Khan album

yes i can hear the similarities with that Caravan

good choice for a fight

The plaudits go to cledussnow, who suggested it. As I say, I've heard neither album myself.

So, currently

Camel --- 2 votes
Khan --- 0 votes

Guybrush 05-28-2012 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1193420)
So, currently

Camel --- 2 votes

I think you mean Caravan!

cledussnow 05-28-2012 12:20 PM

I think they are both solid, but I am partial to the slightly heavier sounds and Steve Hillage on guitar.

Caravan - 2
Khan - 1

Trollheart 05-28-2012 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tore (Post 1193421)
I think you mean Caravan!

I have quite often hitched a camel to the back of my car and gone on holidays, I'll have you know! They have four wheels, don't they? Roundy roofs... :D Yeah, ya got me... D'oh!

Unknown Soldier 05-28-2012 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1193492)
I have quite often hitched a camel to the back of my car and gone on holidays, I'll have you know! They have four wheels, don't they? Roundy roofs... :D Yeah, ya got me... D'oh!

Try and stay off the Guinness in future, otherwise you'll be imagining all types of things.

Salami 05-28-2012 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1193494)
Try and stay off the Guinness in future, otherwise you'll be imagining all types of things.

Taking the appreciation of prog to a new level.
Imagining trombone sounds when the song's over no doubt.

Unknown Soldier 05-28-2012 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salami (Post 1193499)
Taking the appreciation of prog to a new level.
Imagining trombone sounds when the song's over no doubt.

Back to sniffing glue are?

Trollheart 05-28-2012 02:30 PM

My mate the pink elephant says I should stop listening to all of you, and help him with his plans to conquer the world. I think he's had a few too many, to be honest...

Salami 05-28-2012 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1193501)
Back to sniffing glue are?

That's my warming up routine. When I'm done with that I could inhale an entire anthill without noticing.


Howard the Duck 05-28-2012 04:38 PM

i like to smoke an eggroll every now and then

will be voting later

still ingesting Khan

Mrd00d 05-29-2012 03:00 PM

I love both, but surprisingly, Khan does more for me. Space Shanty was one of my firs favorites, helping me get into the genre as a whole. Think I heard a sample on the Adult Swim bumps...

I'm seeing 2 votes each.

Trollheart 05-29-2012 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrd00d (Post 1193874)
I love both, but surprisingly, Khan does more for me. Space Shanty was one of my firs favorites, helping me get into the genre as a whole. Think I heard a sample on the Adult Swim bumps...

I'm seeing 2 votes each.

OK, so just to be clear: you're voting for Khan, yes?
That would then make the vote

Caravan (won't be making THAT mistake again!) = 2 votes
Khan = 2 votes


(as you said: I assume you don't mean you're giving each album 2 votes? Where did that pink elephant go? He's always doing this...)

Unknown Soldier 05-29-2012 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1193886)
OK, so just to be clear: you're voting for Khan, yes?
That would then make the vote

Caravan (won't be making THAT mistake again!) = 2 votes
Khan = 2 votes


(as you said: I assume you don't mean you're giving each album 2 votes? Where did that pink elephant go? He's always doing this...)

I see the camels have gone, I'll be listening to the Khan album tomorrow.

Frownland 05-29-2012 04:32 PM

I really like both, newer to the Khan album. I wasn't expecting for it to be that good and edges out Caravan, so my vote goes to Space Shanty.

Caravan = 2 votes
Khan = 3 votes

Guybrush 05-29-2012 04:36 PM

Space Shanty's a good album, but edging past immortal classic In The Land of Grey And Pink?

I'm actually feeling slightly offended.

Mrd00d 05-29-2012 04:40 PM

It wasn't supposed to be that way, Tore. My vote had a lot to do with the thought that Khan was going to get stomped. I didn't want it to be an utter blowout.

Guybrush 05-29-2012 04:51 PM

I think it's more interesting when people are honest rather than trying to be "different" or just voting for what they think will be the underdog.

Trollheart 05-29-2012 05:49 PM

Yeah, I would stay away from "mercy votes". That said, everyone's opinion is of course welcome. Just make sure it is your honest opinion...

Frownland 05-29-2012 06:10 PM

Sorry if I wasn't clear in my other post, but I actually did like the Khan album better, hence my (self decided, not based on pity) vote for the album. I like the spacey feel to the album better than Caravan's more Canterbury scene (more so than Khan's, that is) sound. Sorry to offend tore, though, who seems to be located at where the Caravan album takes place.

Guybrush 05-30-2012 01:24 AM

No worries, Frownland. I'm not seriously offended. Well, not much anyways. In the Land of Grey and Pink is one of my favourite albums from the Canterbury scene, but while it's way up there, it's not quite at the top of the list.

Something interesting about In the Land of Grey and Pink is that it's pretty much the Sinclairs' (Richard and cousin Dave) album whereas the earlier and most of the later material was written by Pye Hastings. In the Land of Grey and Pink is generally considered the band's finest hour and it's never been out of print since it was first released. I've sometimes wondered if that was a source of tension in the band, that the Sinclairs pretty much wrote the band's most successful album. They both left the band not long after.

Khan is good and and is interesting for including both Dave Stewart and Steve Hillage who played in Uriel (aka Arzachel) together, but I personally think I prefer Steve Hillage's first solo album (Fish Rising) more which includes songs that were intended for Khan's second album.

Unknown Soldier 05-30-2012 12:02 PM

I've just listened to the Khan album and sure its an accomplished album which shows the potential of the band, but that is what it is potential, they never stuck around to record a follow-up. The Caravan album on the other hand is the finished product and one of the finest prog albums from the mid to early 1970s period, so no contest really.

Caravan -3
Khan -3

Guybrush 05-30-2012 03:40 PM

Supposedly, Dave Stewart was asked to play on Space Shanty just before recording started so I guess he wasn't much of a member beforehand. Still, he did a pretty good job even if he didn't have much time to rehearse the material. I consider him to be one of the most interesting musicians from the Canterbury scene, particularly from his time in Hatfield and the North and National Health.

Trollheart 05-30-2012 07:11 PM

[ignorance alert!] Is that the same Dave Stewart, ie of the Eurythmics?[/ignorance alert]

cledussnow 05-30-2012 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1194459)
[ignorance alert!] Is that the same Dave Stewart, ie of the Eurythmics?[/ignorance alert]

An emphatic NO

Howard the Duck 05-30-2012 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1194459)
[ignorance alert!] Is that the same Dave Stewart, ie of the Eurythmics?[/ignorance alert]

there're at least 3 Dave Stewarts in the music biz

Guybrush 05-31-2012 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1194459)
[ignorance alert!] Is that the same Dave Stewart, ie of the Eurythmics?[/ignorance alert]

Hehe, fortunately no :) Dave Stewart seems to be a relatively normal name in the english speaking world.

This Dave Stewart is a keyboard player and also composed some of the most intricate, epic and catchy pieces of music from what's generally known as the Canterbury scene. I consider him a genius.

Trollheart 05-31-2012 02:42 AM

I assumed not, hence the tags. Would have been pretty damn weird though huh? Annie dancing in a hippy-style fog of psychedelic stream of consciousness, or whatever... :)

Guybrush 05-31-2012 03:35 AM

Sometimes, people mostly famous in other genres of music have demonstrated their prog chops. F.ex since we're talking Dave Stewart and related, on National Health's prog-fusiony debut, Neil Murray plays bass. He's best known for playing in Whitesnake and Black Sabbath! I don't think Dave Stewart from Eurythmics was ever a progger, though.

If Annie Lennox was in a band with the Canterbury-Dave Stewart, she might have to dance along to something like this :



One of Dave's catchier compositions from NH. Intro before the song gets going lasts until about 2:10 .. Ahh, what magnificent music. :)

Howard the Duck 05-31-2012 04:02 AM

Dave Stewart from the Eurythmics started out playing fusion folk or something, so he's not that far off

Mrd00d 05-31-2012 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tore (Post 1193937)
I think it's more interesting when people are honest rather than trying to be "different" or just voting for what they think will be the underdog.

Apologies, that came out wrong. I know Caravan's album is better/more important and interesting, but for some reason, I listen to Space Shanty more. I could have gone either way for different reasons, but I'm glad Khan has a few other fans.

I like Hillage's solo albums more, too, though.

Howard the Duck 05-31-2012 08:26 PM

ok, ready to vote

Caravan's is probably one of the defining albums of prog, and is near flawless

Khan's, whilst the guitar is awesome, i have some problems with the singing, as it sounds rather weak

so:-

Caravan - 4
Khan - 3

Trollheart 06-05-2012 02:42 PM

Okay, so are we done here? Four days since the last comment. Is that how we leave it? Caravan rolls over Khan's foot (KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN! --- in-joke for Star Trek nerds) and takes the prize 4/3?

I have more...

Unknown Soldier 06-05-2012 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1196580)
Okay, so are we done here? Four days since the last comment. Is that how we leave it? Caravan rolls over Khan's foot (KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN! --- in-joke for Star Trek nerds) and takes the prize 4/3?

I have more...

...and a crap Trek villain he was as well.

Howard the Duck 06-05-2012 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1196588)
...and a crap Trek villain he was as well.

Star Trek 2 the movie is a good return to form, though, even if he is


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