60s/70s Prog VS Psych Smackdown
 

First up:

Brainticket "Celestial Ocean" VS Fraction "Moonblood".


(Right. As if there are more than two peeps on this forum that can handle this.)

To get more people to join in you might need to be a bit clearer about the rules - will you tally up the votes on a particular date? Also it might help to be less condescending. You clearly have a lot to offer so I hope you do stick around.

Anyway I listened to these, and I think Brainticket should take this round. Some fantastic analog synth work here, and an all round original sound. Moonblood had a couple of great songs but I'm not sure if I'd keep going back to it rather than any number of other fuzzy pentatonic riff filled 70s band.

Alo: no need to tally the votes since we will be lucky to get 4/5 responses.

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I agree with you: The Brainticket "re-formation" cd is the clear winner here. Perhaps not much in common with Cottonwoodhill , but exceptional nonetheless. Sorta like the latest two Gong lps, would you say?


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WEIDORJE "SAME" vs COLD SUN

Don't know the reason for the "smackdown" -
pairing random prog and psych albums against
each other when there are good and bad in each.
You might as well pair soukous vs. zouglou.

Anyway, never much liked the christian Doors-wannabe
of that sole album (thankfully) of Fraction.
The masterpieces of Joel V's Brainticket
on the other hand are superb circumnavigations of
braincell egg yolks of ooze. Living right up there in
classic arabesque deepfreeze with Cottonwoodhill
and Psychonaut.

Also, stop it!
You're coming off as a retarded dickwhistle herder.

Easily Brainticket.

Hope you can handle this post brev

Lower tier smackdown:


SYMPHONIC SLAM "SAME"

vs


DEVIL'S ANVIL "HARD ROCK FROM MIDDLE EAST"

Oh yes!

http://i.imgur.com/eyYiJeI.jpg

Grand Wizard say: "Of course, feel free to post your own smack-submissions."

Weidorje

The Devil's Anvil

Agree with both of these comments. You're confirming the stereotype of a prog head as arrogant, condescending, high-handed and up himself. It's not nice. You're making Frownland look kind, understanding and gentle. I think you've already ruffled enough feathers here; prog heads have a hard enough time being accepted here without your stupid brand of elitism.

I'd take the Weidorje.


And the Slam.
Symphonic Slam is that rare thing - proglite that actually works (but forget their 2nd lp - with exception of the one track). Dare I say it, pop-prog. But good.

http://i.imgur.com/IGCGEs8.jpg

Okay this is gonna be a challenge. Two real good'uns go at it:

FRUUPP " MODERN MASQUERADES"

VS


the Bosstown faux-psych which is , STONE CIRCUS "SAME"


http://i.imgur.com/GqYUNRu.jpg

Not big on sympi-prog, but Ian MacDonald is involved.
and the Peake prog, tho not one of its best tracks,
is pleasant enuf from the Irish guys, Fruupp.

If I'm gonna listen to psych from Montreal,
I'd rather listen to someone like L'Infonie.

Funny you mention L'Infonie.

My lp finds have been totally dismal the last 2 years or so, but a few months ago I found the last (of 4) lp. This is their best.

50 cents in a Christian charity shop and down to .25 cos everything was half price! And in perfeckt nick: This one is hard to find without ringwear due to the plain ,mainly monotone coverart.

I don't care all that much for this band: too experimental noise-minimalist for me. The double third lp is like a jazzier Terry Riley "In C". The second lp, Mantra" has a beautiful cove but the music is two sidelong tracks totally of same style - very much a difficult listen.
I had the first lp and got rid of it quickly even though its very rare - as they all are. That one had, I believe, pop moments to it and maybe even ballad!


Four releases and one a double set! Amazing that this was even released. They KNEW it would never sell.


Quebec prog 70s is a great thing to get into since unlike elsewhere ,these rare records can still be got for $20-30. The Infonie however is probs, $80 -100. (Sure, smartass, find me a cheap one on ebay - you can do that for anything.)

African beatdown:

OSIBISA "HAPPY cHILDREN"

VS


WITCH "LAZY BONES"

I'm chosing the 4th Osibisa because the first would easily blow Witch out of the water, right?

Lazy Bones for the reason you stated.

respect

Quebecois smakdown time!

MORSE CODE "MARCHE DES HOMMES"

vs


???


http://i.imgur.com/HTJzZo8.jpg

Can't think of any Quebec psych???? They had garage but precious little psych - maybe odd track on otherwise straight lp

Eloy " silent cries mighty echoes"


vs



freeborne "peak impressions"

Only Beau Dommage and Harmonium come to mind right now, but they are more prog-folk than psych.

The Eloy title is surprisingly good for a late 70s item.

Oh! I'm thinking of Dionysos - Le Prince Croule. Weren't they from Quebec?

Dionysos were Kebec. First two lps are killer.

Beau Dommage & Harmonium - absolutely nothing to do with psych.

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That is my fav Eloy lp. Side 2 starts off with their best track ever.



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Man, psych is taking a beating here!

Gonna try to level the playing field: progheads ridicule Khazad Doom. I do not.


KHAZAD DOOM


vs



ORACLE "Naranja..."

I choose Limp Bizkit.

You don't know 70s worthy music, Batbird.

So please refrain from confusing matters here on my thread.


It is just making you look....what you are.

Like Batman getting to first base with a marijuana-festooned Poison Ivy? Why thank you.

Limp Bizkit actually started in the 70s. I also vote for them.

Belgian prog band Limpé Bisqit.

Limp Bizkit - 2
That other **** - 0

Canadian DeathMatch:

http://i.imgur.com/raDvfck.jpg

TRUE MYTH "SAME"


VS


PLASTIC CLOUD "SAME"


What's it gonna be??

I choose Same.

Same.

I would give the match over to True Myth.
Very good prog with vocalist sounding exactly like Greg Lake. (Not to mention the lp has sound engineering history.)

Plastic Cloud is, of course, legendary psych lp but, other than the first track, it is fuzz-overkill and thus samey throughout.


So then,as much as I lurv psychedelic music, prog has won out - at least on my submissions.

If you can think up a match where psych clearly comes out the winner, please enlighten.

United States of America - United States of America

vs.

Yes - Tormato

YES Tormato is much-maligned by progheads for a few reasons:

some take certain lyrics (like the "Circus of Heaven" track) to be sickly-sweet

poor production


Wakeman insisting on using rinky-dink keys-sounds that get dated quickly. (I never understood the reasoning behind his obvious low-profiling of the Hammond.) Wakiepoos was pushing his fancy Biotron at that time and he had put money into it. That is likely the reason for that irritating high-pitch , low depth keys sound through much of Tormato.

All the same, there are excellent tracks here - "Dont Kill The Whale", "Release Release" is a good rocker. And one of their strongest lp endings.

I bought a dollar bin copy of it years ago and always thought it sounded like they were just phoning it in to fulfill a contract they were trying to get out of, whereas USA is a perfect record on every level.

United States like Silver Apples and - the best of the three - 50 Foot hose,
are terribly over-rated lps.

Simply because they were amongst the earliest to play with electronic effects, does not guarantee anything. Being the first entering an otherwise virgin field does not count for much in my book - other than serving as fodder to push "firsts" on music fora discussions.(Of which, admittedly, I myself am much guilty of.)

Way better on the early electronics-to-pop/rock front, were White Noise.

perfect album vs bad album

That's cool I guess, I don't really rate them based on that though. How much does brilliant music count for in your book?

I say that White Noise are as good as USA.

White Noise had two members who were grounded in electronics of the period - at one of the best learning grounds available in those thin early times: BBC Radiophonic Workshop.

United States on the other hand were just diddling around.


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Brilliant counts for everything.
The orchestrated ballad "Onwards" going into
"On The Silent Wings of Freedom" on Tormato...now that IS brilliant.

Here Come the Fleas is beautiful.