Yes or No? Tales from Trollographic Oceans

Queen Boo · 02-07-2023, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Synthgirl

I get what Drive is saying, Tales has no Roundabout or Yours Is No Disgrace or Starship Trooper or anything like their more digestible tracks. It's all the proggiest, most epic in scope elements of Yes assembled together into those four tracks.

I personally love it, have listened to it hundreds of times and know it like the back of my hand, but I know a heck of a lot of people, including some who were fans in the 70s, who were confused at its lack of immediacy.

Relayer on the other hand is more immediate but also a lot more wild and unhinged.

Wow, another trans woman on Music Banter AND you're a prog fan, what are the odds?

Will it be trans femmes who put to rest the myth that girls don't like prog once and for all?

Synthgirl · 02-07-2023, 02:03 PM

I’ve known a few other women who were into it. I used to play Magic the Gathering with this dude and his wife who were very DND, Renaissance fair types who were both huge King Crimson fans.

I like plenty of stereotypically “girly” music too. There’s just something about watching Peter Gabriel prancing around the stage dressed as a flower that just hits right for me, y’know?

rubber soul · 02-08-2023, 11:24 AM

This is my favorite Yes album. It's easily the most listenable to me though I do like Fragile a lot as well. 1971 was such an incredible year for albums, wasn't it?

Trollheart · 02-08-2023, 01:17 PM

I couldn't say it's my favourite yet (well, of the 70s - Big Generator, 90125 and Union are my favourites overall) but it's certainly my favourite so far.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 02-08-2023, 05:14 PM

I've Seen All Good People is one of my favorites Yes songs. The way it opens and develops is just perfect.

Lisnaholic · 02-11-2023, 09:26 AM

You can't have ups without downs - you need the valleys to define the mountains, or so some conventional wisdom goes, I believe. With Yes, you need the louder instrumental parts to really bring out the quiet Jon Anderson moments. But those quiet parts are what I like best about Yes, and on this album there aren't enough of them imo, so this is my least-revisited Yes album.
Highlight: Your Move. Low point: Würm

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 02-11-2023, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

You can't have ups without downs - you need the valleys to define the mountains, or so some conventional wisdom goes, I believe. With Yes, you need the louder instrumental parts to really bring out the quiet Jon Anderson moments. But those quiet parts are what I like best about Yes, and on this album there aren't enough of them imo, so this is my least-revisited Yes album.
Highlight: Your Move. Low point: Würm

Yeah, when I said I've Seen All Good People was one of my favorite Yes songs, I'm mostly referring to the "Your Move" part.

Queen Boo · 02-11-2023, 11:00 PM

Würm is my favorite moment on the whole album, the build up is so intense and that guitar solo kicks ass, c'mon.

Synthgirl · 02-12-2023, 01:26 AM

For sure. And the Yessongs version is even better IMO, the addition of Wakeman's gnarly synth solo is a *chef's kiss* moment.

Lisnaholic · 02-12-2023, 08:29 AM

Out of deference to your opinions, I gave Würm another listen*, but it still didn't do it for me, I'm afraid. I feel like the introductory section goes on too long and then, when it finally comes in, the guitar solo doesn't quite give the explosive lift I'd like to hear. It's like that time when you're a kid, intently watching a firework that turns out to be a dud.
Sorry, guys.

* in fact two listens: a live Yessongs one and The Yes Album one. It may be my impaired hearing or my cheap laptop loudspeakers, but I didn't really notice much syn soloing on either version.

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Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	I couldn't say it's my favourite yet (well, of the 70s - Big Generator, 90125 and Union are my favourites overall) but it's certainly my favourite so far. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

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DriveYourCarDownToTheSea AllTheWhileYouChargeAFee Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,203	I've Seen All Good People is one of my favorites Yes songs. The way it opens and develops is just perfect. __________________ Stop and find a pretty shell for her Beach Boys vs Beatles comparisons begin here

02-11-2023, 09:26 AM	#6 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	You can't have ups without downs - you need the valleys to define the mountains, or so some conventional wisdom goes, I believe. With Yes, you need the louder instrumental parts to really bring out the quiet Jon Anderson moments. But those quiet parts are what I like best about Yes, and on this album there aren't enough of them imo, so this is my least-revisited Yes album. Highlight: Your Move. Low point: Würm __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

02-12-2023, 08:29 AM	#10 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	Out of deference to your opinions, I gave Würm another listen, but it still didn't do it for me, I'm afraid. I feel like the introductory section goes on too long and then, when it finally comes in, the guitar solo doesn't quite give the explosive lift I'd like to hear. It's like that time when you're a kid, intently watching a firework that turns out to be a dud. Sorry, guys. in fact two listens: a live Yessongs one and The Yes Album one. It may be my impaired hearing or my cheap laptop loudspeakers, but I didn't really notice much syn soloing on either version. __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

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02-07-2023, 02:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
Synthgirl Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2023 Location: Cheeseland USA Posts: 162	I’ve known a few other women who were into it. I used to play Magic the Gathering with this dude and his wife who were very DND, Renaissance fair types who were both huge King Crimson fans. I like plenty of stereotypically “girly” music too. There’s just something about watching Peter Gabriel prancing around the stage dressed as a flower that just hits right for me, y’know?

02-12-2023, 01:26 AM	#9 (permalink)
Synthgirl Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2023 Location: Cheeseland USA Posts: 162	For sure. And the Yessongs version is even better IMO, the addition of Wakeman's gnarly synth solo is a chef's kiss moment.