They didn't kill it as i said before it can't be killed.People who walk around with a mohawk conforming and listening to blink arent punk.

Soul,Passion,Power.
Not.
Mohawks,Studs,Patches.
Punks not a fashion statement.

^ nice

dead on misfits...all i can say is:

"I see the velvet zippies in their bondage gear,
The social elite with safety-pins in their ear,
I watch and understand that it don't mean a thing,
The scorpions might attack,
but the systems stole the sting." - Crass 1978

its been happening since the start. way before bands like sum 41 and all the others. you cant associate punk with the fashion that you can buy at any store in any mall around the world. its nothing new, listen to alot of older punk bands and in alot of their songs its brought up..Anarchy For Sale. the kids think its new, cool, and rebellious. While record companies and clothing companies see it as $$$$.

Exactly.


But i do think that "true" punk bands still exist, you just have to look harder to find them.

sums it up nicely, i fail to see why this topic had to reach 2 pages when the debate could have been closed with this statement, which has been reitterated many, many times over. every time i read a thread like this i'm absolutely baffled at why people think this is a new development. Every single trend in history started as a subversive movement, then made it's way into the "mainstream". It's not a new development, nor a threatening one. yes more and more kids are listening to the so-called "pop-punk" bands like sum 41, blink 182 etc etc. but that doesnt change the fact that there are still great punk bands out there that people are willing to seek out and hold on to. honestly people, shut up about the "posers" who've "ruined" or "killed" your favorite genre. It's bullshit and as people have been complaining about it for decades now, we're all sick and tired of hearing about it.

commercialized
 

they all made it commecialized..personally i liked the underground days much better than what is so called punk today,,MTV and pop radio continously play a song u may absolutely HATE at first but after lets say 20 times in one day it grows on you..its subliminal,,,this is what you should like this is what you should like this is what you should like this is what you should like this is what you should like till eventually ur wasting money on there music hitting the ticket counter for a 30-40$ ticket and spending 30-40$ on a T shirt..and what concert is complete without a few cold ones and party favors..tickets would cost what 10-15 bux tops didnt worry about crappy T shirts etc ..just whent to slam and pogo and have a blast..

Who is making it commercialized? The industry paints a cat and tries to sell it as a lion. It was never about fashion or the way you looked, anybody that says it is, is still wet behind the ears, or too busy trying to decide which color plaid goes best with their new bondage belt to stop and pay attention.

ive said it before on some thread around here, if you or anybody is comparing these bands to what punk is youve got it all wrong. George Bush can get a mohawk and start screaming "im Punk Rock!!!" it doesnt mean shit.

The scene is still underground. The real punk bands are still underground. 5 -15 bucks is still the price for a good show. If youre spending 40 bucks to see someone with blue hair play 3chord rock then the blindfold is on, bend over, take it like a man and dont expect the record industry to have the courtesy to give you a reach around.

punk was the 80s !!!!man if your statements true then only my herion addict buddy who drinks all day and lives in the gutter is the only punk around


and punk is a fashion statement
thats why alot of punks are wearing leathers in the 100 degree heat
and puttin all kinds of patches and studs over there clothes
thats part of it

like these kids now adys who put the metal part of there lighter on everything

yeah safty pins
punk started in the gutter and belongs to stay there

I agree with you sir...But also punk is believing, They live the gutter, they knew it and it shows but now it's not so because kids these days are better off, They dress hard but they're soft...Not like you MB's eh..Now punk doesn't really exist except the ones mentioned which are a hell of a lot but what I'm trying to say is there are no new ones coming up or being noticed

well there is in the crusty scene
more and more everyday