Classic 70's Punk Thread (rock, genre, sex pistols, Queen, quote)

right-track · 09-15-2007, 07:24 AM

As someone previously pointed out, it's been 30 years since Sex Pistols - 'God Save The Queen' was released, here's a thread to discuss classic 70's Punk. The original and still the best.

Sex Pistols
Buzzcocks.
The Clash.
Sham 69.
The Skids.
The Stranglers.
The Dickies.
The Damned.
The Vibrators.
The Slits.
X-Ray Spex.
Siouxsie & the Banshees.

cardboard adolescent · 09-15-2007, 02:24 PM

I've been on a Slits binge recently... god they're amazing.

dubjectivist · 09-15-2007, 04:08 PM

This is a personal pov, mind, but I think punk (the music) was ****e, in the main. It was simply loud, proud and played, largely, by the hugely untalented. Anyone could pick up a guitar or some drumsticks, circa 1977, and make aggressive noise. Punk the lifestyle was different - it stood for something and was a symbolic way of life... it made the music make sense.
There are two things that make punk, as a genre of music, stand out in the 21st century. The first is that the lifestyle came before the music (unlike any genre before or since it). The second is that without it, post-punk (take most punk music and add an IQ) would never have existed... and god forbid!

right-track · 09-15-2007, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dubjectivist

Anyone could pick up a guitar or some drumsticks, circa 1977, and make aggressive noise.

That was the beauty of punk in the 70's.
And you're spot on with the post punk point.

Warsaw-Joy Division-New Order

From a bunch of ordinary lads picking up a guitar and drumsticks and making shite music, to the perfect post punk outfit, to a band that took music in another direction.

cardboard adolescent · 09-15-2007, 04:55 PM

I'm not seeing the logical connection between something being untalented and something being shit. Also I don't see why the punk lifestyle validates punk as a style of music, it seems pretty irrelevant.

right-track · 09-15-2007, 05:00 PM

Yeah, I didn't entirely agree with that sentiment either.
They were generally untalented though, but their creativity made up for the deficit.

jackhammer · 09-15-2007, 05:12 PM

Dead Boys-Young, Loud And Snotty. 1977. Disgustingly overlooked punk album.

Nice thread RT.

cardboard adolescent · 09-15-2007, 05:14 PM

Speaking of Dead Boys, Rocket From The Tombs don't get nearly enough recognition. They're usually classified garage rock/proto-punk, but I mean they played some of the same songs as the Dead Boys so how doesn't that make them punk?

dubjectivist · 09-15-2007, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent

I'm not seeing the logical connection between something being untalented and something being shit

Then there's unlikely to be anything I can say to educate you. Oh, hang on... how well do you play violin?

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Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent

Also I don't see why the punk lifestyle validates punk as a style of music, it seems pretty irrelevant.

It validated it because it created it. The music was born of an era. Teenagers weren't an actual entity until the late 50s and so many restrictions were placed on them then - the kids finally make themselves "free" in the 60s and what do they do? Smoke a spliff and make daisy chains. Woop de woo.

Punk was the first real "rage" against the machine. The music was a direct result of the feeling.

cardboard adolescent · 09-15-2007, 05:39 PM

There was rebellious music before '77, it just wasn't as loud or fast. Punk was more or less inevitable, imo.

As to your violin point, listen to Cale's viola playing in Heroin. It's abrasive, violent and atonal but still magnificent.

09-15-2007, 07:24 AM	#1 (permalink)
right-track Atchin' Akai Join Date: May 2005 Location: Unamerica Posts: 8,723	Classic 70's Punk Thread As someone previously pointed out, it's been 30 years since Sex Pistols - 'God Save The Queen' was released, here's a thread to discuss classic 70's Punk. The original and still the best. Sex Pistols Buzzcocks. The Clash. Sham 69. The Skids. The Stranglers. The Dickies. The Damned. The Vibrators. The Slits. X-Ray Spex. Siouxsie & the Banshees.

09-15-2007, 05:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	Dead Boys-Young, Loud And Snotty. 1977. Disgustingly overlooked punk album. Nice thread RT. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

09-15-2007, 02:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	I've been on a Slits binge recently... god they're amazing.

09-15-2007, 04:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
dubjectivist Groupie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 31	This is a personal pov, mind, but I think punk (the music) was ***e, in the main. It was simply loud, proud and played, largely, by the hugely untalented. Anyone could pick up a guitar or some drumsticks, circa 1977, and make aggressive noise. Punk the lifestyle was different - it stood for something and was a symbolic way of life... it made the music make sense. There are two things that make punk, as a genre of music, stand out in the 21st century. The first is that the lifestyle came before* the music (unlike any genre before or since it). The second is that without it, post-punk (take most punk music and add an IQ) would never have existed... and god forbid!

09-15-2007, 04:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	I'm not seeing the logical connection between something being untalented and something being shit. Also I don't see why the punk lifestyle validates punk as a style of music, it seems pretty irrelevant.

09-15-2007, 05:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
right-track Atchin' Akai Join Date: May 2005 Location: Unamerica Posts: 8,723	Yeah, I didn't entirely agree with that sentiment either. They were generally untalented though, but their creativity made up for the deficit.

09-15-2007, 05:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	Speaking of Dead Boys, Rocket From The Tombs don't get nearly enough recognition. They're usually classified garage rock/proto-punk, but I mean they played some of the same songs as the Dead Boys so how doesn't that make them punk?

09-15-2007, 05:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	There was rebellious music before '77, it just wasn't as loud or fast. Punk was more or less inevitable, imo. As to your violin point, listen to Cale's viola playing in Heroin. It's abrasive, violent and atonal but still magnificent.