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08-28-2008, 03:28 PM | #34 (permalink) |
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Television a prog band? A jam band? Sure...as much as Velvet Underground was.
To be clear, I'm not saying Television was as good as Velvet Underground, but the "criticisms" Alex Kapranos applies to Television could be equally applied to Velvet Underground, and I'd say it's pretty irrelevant, really. "Sister Ray" is nothing but a jam, up to twenty minutes, depending on the version. I'd call both bands art punk or art rock. They both had the aesthetic of doing their own thing, exploring music the way they wanted too. Three-minute time limit rules are silly...punk isn't about rigidly sticking to rules. I think Television (and VU, even if the term "punk" didn't exist when they were active) fit the punk aesthetic perfectly well. Even if they have long songs, even if they are sonically challenging. I think the Marquee Moon album is great. Definitely one of the great things out of the New York music scene.
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08-28-2008, 05:56 PM | #35 (permalink) |
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Art rock is just prog with shorter haircuts & no elves anyway.
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08-28-2008, 06:27 PM | #36 (permalink) | |
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But then, I don't consider prog to be a bad word, so it really isn't a big deal to me.
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12-02-2008, 04:07 PM | #40 (permalink) |
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By 1977 Television was already headed into the new wave. The elaborate guitar work immediately separated them from the punks. I'd been listening to Dream Syndicate "Days of Wine and Roses" recently, which reminded me alot of Marquee Moon as well as White Light/White Heat. Steve Wynn and Karl Precoda were another great duo. Speaking of the Voidoids, Robert Quine's guitar work was frickin aces, RIP.
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