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ObiSobi 02-18-2008 08:02 PM

Did the f*cking rotter incident "make" punk?
 
The imfamous line uttered by Steve Jones, "What a f*cking rotter" effectivly ended the interviewer's career, and brought punk rock into the lime light.

My question is, had Jones not said that, would Punk (and the Sex Pistols) been so popular?

ghostonstage135 02-18-2008 09:43 PM

Eventually it had to happen. I don't think a single line from a single interview started an entire movement.....

ObiSobi 02-19-2008 12:36 AM

Well, the interviewer who got fired for that interview was well known, so it's possible (in my mind atleast) that the Pistols were brought to the public's eye by this.

sleepy jack 02-19-2008 12:42 AM

There were much more profanities said before he said fucking rotter, so nothing would've been really different if he didn't say fucking rotter. The interviewer also didn't get fired, just suspended for a few weeks.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-19-2008 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 445119)
The interviewer also didn't get fired, just suspended for a few weeks.

Well he was

He was suspended , bought back & then the show was axed 6 weeks later.

Lost_At_22 02-20-2008 12:28 PM

The interviewer was Bill Grundy who was a famed alcoholic. The Pistols were plied with drink all afternoon in order to get an "interesting" interview but it backfired when Jones started swearing. Any interviewer worth his weight would have cut the interview there and then, but Grundy goaded them on asking them for more "naughty words".....the rest is history. :laughing:

ADELE 02-22-2008 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 445119)
There were much more profanities said before he said fucking rotter, so nothing would've been really different if he didn't say fucking rotter. The interviewer also didn't get fired, just suspended for a few weeks.

You just wont accept that the pistols invented punk man!
Yes people swore before Rotten and yes there were bands that played instruments before that sounded punkish but lets just accept this forum would not have a punk section had it not been for the pistols.
Just as it doesn't have a skiffle section.

Wake up and smell the coffee for the love of God.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-22-2008 06:43 PM

What on earth are you talking about

right-track 02-22-2008 06:43 PM

:laughing:

ObiSobi 02-22-2008 06:48 PM

Someone is certainly passionate.

sleepy jack 02-22-2008 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADELE (Post 446266)
You just wont accept that the pistols invented punk man!
Yes people swore before Rotten and yes there were bands that played instruments before that sounded punkish but lets just accept this forum would not have a punk section had it not been for the pistols.
Just as it doesn't have a skiffle section.

Wake up and smell the coffee for the love of God.

I was talking about the Pistols interview dumbass.

ADELE 02-22-2008 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 446292)
I was talking about the Pistols interview dumbass.

Yeah and he never worked again and died shortly after.
Like you make out he was ticked off and he came back with a game show for old ladies on Grampian Tele six months later.
It ruined his career and he deserved it for trying to ridicule young blokes by comparing them to Motzart.
You make it sound like he was presenting Mr and Mrs the following autumn.
That show started punk and got all the squares protesting outside halls and got it all over the media. That kick started the revolution from crappy rick wakemen prog rock to music with balls and the world changed.
(not including the floyd in prog rock bashing.)
Have you had your coffee!

sleepy jack 02-22-2008 07:25 PM

What the fuck are you talking about?

ADELE 02-22-2008 07:27 PM

Don't know

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-22-2008 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADELE (Post 446300)
Yeah and he never worked again and died shortly after.
Like you make out he was ticked off and he came back with a game show for old ladies on Grampian Tele six months later.

he died in 1993 so if you think 17 years later is shortly afterwards i'm going to make a point of never asking you to do any timekeeping for me.

And he did work again , on several things actually like 'What the papers say' which was one of BBC2's top rated news programmes.

ProggyMan 02-22-2008 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADELE (Post 446300)
Yeah and he never worked again and died shortly after.
Like you make out he was ticked off and he came back with a game show for old ladies on Grampian Tele six months later.
It ruined his career and he deserved it for trying to ridicule young blokes by comparing them to Motzart.
You make it sound like he was presenting Mr and Mrs the following autumn.
That show started punk and got all the squares protesting outside halls and got it all over the media. That kick started the revolution from crappy rick wakemen prog rock to music with balls and the world changed.
(not including the floyd in prog rock bashing.)
Have you had your coffee!

King Crimson has balls...

ADELE 02-22-2008 07:47 PM

Man you guy's are sharp!
Do you have music pedia's on your laps!!
ha ha ha.
But he never lived it down.
I suppose people here just don't like credit where credit is due. They always want to point to some obscure act who predates the explosion.
But that is silly as people are asking who really made it happen?
Otherwise we can just go back to cavemen.
Do you see?
A lot of the acts mentioned only existed because of the explosion made by the remark or band in question and therefore we know of them now.
There is no right or wrong but just in peoples minds they know this was the moment that things were kickstarted and things exploded. That is what people are asking in their thread titles.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-22-2008 07:50 PM

Yeah but it was a long time ago , we've moved on

ADELE 02-22-2008 07:59 PM

I haven't!!
I'm still at the silver jubilee
ah ha ha

ObiSobi 02-25-2008 02:58 PM

^ What a f*cking rotter.

ADELE 02-26-2008 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by berlisishott (Post 447583)
^ What a f*cking rotter.

oi berlisishot I've always wanted to meet you!!!

ObiSobi 02-26-2008 04:25 PM

You'll see me on the album covers soon enough. The Berlisishott Experience album cover. :D

ADELE 02-26-2008 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by berlisishott (Post 447971)
You'll see me on the album covers soon enough. The Berlisishott Experience album cover. :D

If you want to get exposure make sure you do the UK festivals this summer and just tuen up and play at open mics in tents you find.
Everyone is there if you are any good and you'll get gigs and exposure.
Good luck. I will listen to it.
Knock down doors mate!

ObiSobi 02-26-2008 04:45 PM

Thanks mate. Actually might be doing a US Indie tour this year, just gotta raise some money first.

right-track 02-28-2008 01:20 PM

Congratulations your the idiot of the week. :wavey:

right-track 02-28-2008 01:21 PM

Who ruined my banning technique???

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-28-2008 01:22 PM

You're about 3 minutes too late :p:

right-track 02-28-2008 01:24 PM

I think not dear Urban.
The Great Hall of the Banned clearly indicates that 'yay' was my kill. :p:

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-28-2008 01:27 PM

Amazing

You even called him a moron just like I did too :laughing:

right-track 02-28-2008 01:29 PM

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Urban Hat€monger ? 02-28-2008 01:38 PM

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right-track 02-28-2008 01:40 PM

Kill thief! :(

ObiSobi 02-28-2008 03:22 PM

What the hell is so ****astic about my band going on tour?

Then again what the hell am I saying, I have no idea what you bastards are talking about...

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-28-2008 03:30 PM

The post right-track was talking about was deleted.

ObiSobi 02-28-2008 03:31 PM

Gottcha. Confusing :)

ADELE 03-12-2008 12:53 PM

are you geeks who try to ban people from the forum as you can't handle a bit of criticism?
Take it on the chin man. Otherwise you appear like geeks. This blokes making music and you just slag it off from your living room computer or whatever.
You couldn't kill me believe!!!

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-12-2008 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADELE (Post 454237)
are you geeks who try to ban people from the forum as you can't handle a bit of criticism?
Take it on the chin man. Otherwise you appear like geeks. This blokes making music and you just slag it off from your living room computer or whatever.
You couldn't kill me believe!!!

Maybe you want a forum full of pointless posts and adverts for crap.
The majority of posters here don't.

ADELE 03-12-2008 08:44 PM

You haven't even heard his band or songs have you?
He isn't putting in links or anything just mentioning it in passing.
If his band cracked the music world you'd probably be claiming you know all about his band.
Let it be man.

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-14-2008 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADELE (Post 454540)
You haven't even heard his band or songs have you?

He wasn't banned for that

Any other moans while i'm here?

ADELE 03-14-2008 07:03 PM

You make good points Urban!
Look at oasis best song!!!
You do make good points.
You have to agree with some of mine though.
I do have a valid case about Maclaren and the who and women in rock.
I mean you named about 8 women which is a pretty poor show for half the world isn't it?
People don't always like the truth but it is the truth all the same.

Mark E Smith has a different band each week!!!
Can he still talk or has the drink finally ended that poetic souls work for good!


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