Why do people call bands like Fall Out Boy and Good charlotte "Sellouts"? (rock, single)

DearJenny · 03-13-2008, 12:41 PM

I saw Against Me! mentioned earlier in the thread. When I hear their stuff on the "alternative" station in michigan I get depressed.

Good Charlotte already lost most of their fandom. And Fallout Boy is fading slowly. Their reign of teenage angst will soon come to an end.

jacklovezhimself · 04-07-2008, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CityLightsLikeRain

I saw Against Me! mentioned earlier in the thread. When I hear their stuff on the "alternative" station in michigan I get depressed.

Good Charlotte already lost most of their fandom. And Fallout Boy is fading slowly. Their reign of teenage angst will soon come to an end.

you and me both.

Zombeels · 04-07-2008, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CityLightsLikeRain

I saw Against Me! mentioned earlier in the thread. When I hear their stuff on the "alternative" station in michigan I get depressed.

Good Charlotte already lost most of their fandom. And Fallout Boy is fading slowly. Their reign of teenage angst will soon come to an end.

Theyll find more. We used to complain about Hootie, Nickelback and Creed in the same way. They just keep coming back.

jacklovezhimself · 04-08-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Zombeels

Theyll find more. We used to complain about Hootie, Nickelback and Creed in the same way. They just keep coming back.

I hope you're right. Against Me's new album seemed to poppy for me.

rockalternativeindiepunk1 · 04-07-2008, 05:01 PM

Should Fall Out Boy and Good Charlotte be in the punk section of music banter?

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-07-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred

I have a question. Why is this in the punk section?

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

To annoy people

there

Davey Moore · 04-07-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tjtech12

"Selling out" implies that one has abandoned the values and morals they claimed to believe in order to gain something more superficial. In the sense of a band, it means they changed their sound/ethics to make more money. Anti-Flag sold out. But I don't get why the aforementioned bands "sold out" since they never showed even the slightest evidence of ethics or integrity?

I don't think they are sellouts, I just think they are trash. Also, selling out in music is the same as jumping the shark in TV, that's how I see it.

Inuzuka Skysword · 04-07-2008, 05:34 PM

Anything Green Day or Fall Out Boy has done has been crap. Neither did anything original at all and I have yet to find an ounce of soul in their music.

boo boo · 04-07-2008, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

Anything Green Day or Fall Out Boy has done has been crap. Neither did anything original at all and I have yet to find an ounce of soul in their music.

You find it in Dream Theater?

teshadoh · 04-08-2008, 10:46 AM

The world would be much better if everyone would just agree that punk died in the mid '80's. That doesn't even mean I don't like any post mid 80's 'punk' bands, Sleater Kinney & Fugazi awesome at what they do - but I would consider them more Indie Rock.

90's Indie Rock, 80's Hardcore / Underground are the direct descendants of punk. Any other band that simulates their sound & look are doing so in nostalgia or at best homage. I won't even say they suck, are sell outs, or any negative terms - but the post mid 80's punk bands are performing in a vacuam far removed from what punk WAS.

You can bands influenced by rockabilly, psychedelica, bands influenced by prog-rock, bands influenced by new wave - but those genres are deeply rooted in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's respectavely. Otherwise, those too are ancient genres that can influence bands later, but those bands do not belong in the same genre. They are 'new', 'post' or 'revival'.

03-13-2008, 12:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
DearJenny Raptor Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 1,334	I saw Against Me! mentioned earlier in the thread. When I hear their stuff on the "alternative" station in michigan I get depressed. Good Charlotte already lost most of their fandom. And Fallout Boy is fading slowly. Their reign of teenage angst will soon come to an end. __________________ So here's to living life miserable. And here's to all the lonely stories that I've told. Maybe drinking wine will validate my sorrow. Every man needs a muse and mine could be the bottle.

04-07-2008, 05:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
rockalternativeindiepunk1 Groupie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 28	Should Fall Out Boy and Good Charlotte be in the punk section of music banter?

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Inuzuka Skysword Existential Egoist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,468	Anything Green Day or Fall Out Boy has done has been crap. Neither did anything original at all and I have yet to find an ounce of soul in their music.

04-08-2008, 10:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
teshadoh Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 94	The world would be much better if everyone would just agree that punk died in the mid '80's. That doesn't even mean I don't like any post mid 80's 'punk' bands, Sleater Kinney & Fugazi awesome at what they do - but I would consider them more Indie Rock. 90's Indie Rock, 80's Hardcore / Underground are the direct descendants of punk. Any other band that simulates their sound & look are doing so in nostalgia or at best homage. I won't even say they suck, are sell outs, or any negative terms - but the post mid 80's punk bands are performing in a vacuam far removed from what punk WAS. You can bands influenced by rockabilly, psychedelica, bands influenced by prog-rock, bands influenced by new wave - but those genres are deeply rooted in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's respectavely. Otherwise, those too are ancient genres that can influence bands later, but those bands do not belong in the same genre. They are 'new', 'post' or 'revival'.