Isn't 'Pop-Punk' an oxy moron? (pop, rock, pink floyd, tunes)

Davey Moore · 04-02-2008, 03:19 PM

Pop is determined by the cultural attitude at the time, so no, they are definitely not mutually exclusive.

Far Beyond Driven · 04-09-2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Pantera are nothing more than a hair metal band in denial

Hey, shutup

tjtech12 · 04-12-2008, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Oomph!

Aren't 'pop' and 'punk' mutually exclusive opposites?

Oh great, another elitist ****head.

~~Oomph!~~ · 04-15-2008, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tjtech12

Oh great, another elitist ****head.

That doesn't even make any sense, do you even know what 'elitist' means?

tjtech12 · 04-17-2008, 02:57 PM

He thinks he's so badass because he knows that early punk was anti-pop culture. Get off your ****ing high horse dude.

teshadoh · 04-17-2008, 03:48 PM

I don't think punk's primary issue was ever 'pop', but commercially over-saturated 'popular' music. Of course the Bee Gees & Abba, but also Led Zeppelin, Van Halen, The Who (1970's era), & Pink Floyd. The latter grouping would not be considered 'pop' music by most people's definitions here, but were targeted for either being shallow or being full of themselves. Punk was about taking rock music & stripping it down of all the pretenses that had built up through the 1970's.

Besides, if no one thinks punk bands never played pop music - listen to the Buzz****s. Buzz****s has more memorable sing-along chorus poppy tunes than most seminal pop artists around.

can_i_say · 04-18-2008, 01:32 AM

^ Agreed. From now on when ever a similar thread like this breaks out, in response everyone post "Buzz****s."

~~Oomph!~~ · 04-18-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by teshadoh

I don't think punk's primary issue was ever 'pop', but commercially over-saturated 'popular' music. Of course the Bee Gees & Abba, but also Led Zeppelin, Van Halen, The Who (1970's era), & Pink Floyd.

O really? You think think Led Zepplin and the Who were commercially saturated and/or corporate bands?

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The latter grouping would not be considered 'pop' music by most people's definitions here,

I'm sure there a many people on this board who would take the liberty of saying Led Zepplin or the Who are indeed 'pop music' if it conveniently suited thier response at the time.

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but were targeted for either being shallow or being full of themselves.

Wait, first of all, since when has it been generally believed that Pink Floyd or Led Zepplin were 'full of themselves' or 'shallow'? And secondly, punk was anti-establishment not anti-people-who-are-full-of-themselves. Led Zepplin and Pink Floyd weren't the 'establishment', pop bands were.

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Punk was about taking rock music & stripping it down of all the pretenses that had built up through the 1970's.

And pop music was/is about building those pretenses and reinforcing them, hence them being opposites.

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Besides, if no one thinks punk bands never played pop music

No one said that, so what does it matter? That isn't what this thread is about so no one cares about you chanting the 'buzzcocks'.

sleepy jack · 04-18-2008, 09:19 PM

Buzzcocks!

sleepy jack · 04-18-2008, 09:19 PM

Buzzcocks!

04-02-2008, 03:19 PM	#91 (permalink)
Davey Moore The Great Disappearer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: URI Campus and Coventry, both in RI Posts: 462	Pop is determined by the cultural attitude at the time, so no, they are definitely not mutually exclusive. __________________ The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.

04-18-2008, 01:32 AM	#97 (permalink)
can_i_say Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Toon Posts: 226	^ Agreed. From now on when ever a similar thread like this breaks out, in response everyone post "Buzz****s." __________________ meh

04-17-2008, 02:57 PM	#95 (permalink)
tjtech12 A Dude Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 161	He thinks he's so badass because he knows that early punk was anti-pop culture. Get off your ****ing high horse dude.

04-17-2008, 03:48 PM	#96 (permalink)
teshadoh Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 94	I don't think punk's primary issue was ever 'pop', but commercially over-saturated 'popular' music. Of course the Bee Gees & Abba, but also Led Zeppelin, Van Halen, The Who (1970's era), & Pink Floyd. The latter grouping would not be considered 'pop' music by most people's definitions here, but were targeted for either being shallow or being full of themselves. Punk was about taking rock music & stripping it down of all the pretenses that had built up through the 1970's. Besides, if no one thinks punk bands never played pop music - listen to the Buzz**s. Buzz**s has more memorable sing-along chorus poppy tunes than most seminal pop artists around.