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Old 04-01-2008, 05:33 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Is pop-punk the same thing as punk?
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:41 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:46 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Is pop-punk the same thing as punk?
Tell me are you being deliberately obtuse or are you just a moron? When punk started it was basically pop-punk (this is what I've been saying all along but you seem completely unable to grasp this concept and keep making me repeat myself its getting ridiculous) throughout the 80s band like the Dead Kennedys and stuff furthered it away from that pop-sound but basically it started out as pop-punk.
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:57 PM   #74 (permalink)
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^Agreed.

Assuming we all agree that The Ramones were the first punk band, The Ramones weren't angsty or angry, and hardly political, if at all, and they were just making faster, heavier three chord pop-rock. Then The Pistols, The Clash, The Skids, etc, etc came on the scene and brought politics and pessimism to this trend.
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Old 04-01-2008, 06:35 PM   #75 (permalink)
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He doesn't actually like punk, he likes pantera and stuff.
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So do most modern "metalheads".

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Old 04-01-2008, 08:01 PM   #77 (permalink)
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Tell me are you being deliberately obtuse or are you just a moron? When punk started it was basically pop-punk (this is what I've been saying all along but you seem completely unable to grasp this concept and keep making me repeat myself its getting ridiculous) throughout the 80s band like the Dead Kennedys and stuff furthered it away from that pop-sound but basically it started out as pop-punk.
No I understand what you're saying hommie, you don't seem to want to answer my question. My question wasn't 'did punk 'start out' as pop-punk 'basically', my question was 'Is punk and pop-punk the same thing?' It's really a simple yes or no.
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^Agreed.

Assuming we all agree that The Ramones were the first punk band, The Ramones weren't angsty or angry, and hardly political, if at all, and they were just making faster, heavier three chord pop-rock. Then The Pistols, The Clash, The Skids, etc, etc came on the scene and brought politics and pessimism to this trend.
That's probably because they lead into the inception of the genre by only slightly deviating from the normal pop music at the time. It started as pop, then went to pop-punk, then punk afterwards. So basically it started as a crossover genre.
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No I understand what you're saying hommie, you don't seem to want to answer my question. My question wasn't 'did punk 'start out' as pop-punk 'basically', my question was 'Is punk and pop-punk the same thing?' It's really a simple yes or no.
Your question was actually "Isn't pop-punk an oxymoron" to which several people answered no but that wasn't really good enough for you was it?
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Your question was actually "Isn't pop-punk an oxymoron" to which several people answered no but that wasn't really good enough for you was it?
The 'yes' or 'no' is still too much to ask for huh?
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