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Alfred 04-07-2008 06:59 PM

Ramones vs. The Clash
 
Ramones vs. The Clash

I say The Clash because they're my favorite band and because they were a lot more interesting than the Ramones

GravitySlips 04-07-2008 07:00 PM

clash = boring

ramones = fun

ramones.

Far Beyond Driven 04-07-2008 07:01 PM

The Clash for sure.

sweet_nothing 04-07-2008 07:02 PM

The Clash no contest Ramones are so mundane, but the Pistols are cooler than both.

Lizzie 04-07-2008 07:03 PM

I love the Clash
But the Ramones = the best

Far Beyond Driven 04-07-2008 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 465409)
The Clash no contest Ramones are so mundane, but the Pistols are cooler than both.

The Pistols are ****!

Inuzuka Skysword 04-07-2008 07:07 PM

I like all three to be honest. I am going to have to go with The Clash because their debut is like my favorite early punk album.

sweet_nothing 04-07-2008 07:09 PM

The Sex Pistols do NOT suck

Far Beyond Driven 04-07-2008 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 465417)
The Sex Pistols do NOT suck

Every time I hear that song I just wanna punch something. I hate how everyone always says they're one of the greatest punk bands ever. Their lyrics were good but their music is hard to listen to, it just sucks. I HATE THE SEX PISTOLS.

Alfred 04-07-2008 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 465417)
The Sex Pistols do NOT suck

I hate that song.

Far Beyond Driven 04-07-2008 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 465424)
I hate that song.

That makes two of us.

sleepy jack 04-07-2008 07:30 PM

The Sex Pistols? More like the Suck Pistols.

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 04-07-2008 07:35 PM

o shi

all three are weak

ramones i guess i like the best

Far Beyond Driven 04-07-2008 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 465432)
The Sex Pistols? More like the Suck Pistols.

That was just a little too clever.

Alfred 04-07-2008 07:55 PM

that makes three. four?

tjtech12 04-07-2008 08:22 PM

Dude, "sweet nothing", defending these pieces of **** is really making you look bad. For your sake, I advise you to stop. Or go beat off to "nevermind the bollocks" and leave us alone.

Piss Me Off 04-08-2008 07:49 AM

The Clash of course.

sweet_nothing 04-08-2008 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by tjtech12 (Post 465455)
Dude, "sweet nothing", defending these pieces of **** is really making you look bad. For your sake, I advise you to stop. Or go beat off to "nevermind the bollocks" and leave us alone.

Really someone give me a reason why they suck other than the music I mean the Ramones weren't terribly creative in that area either.

Alfred 04-08-2008 05:39 PM

Besides the fact that the Ramones were the first punk band (agree otherwise? stfu)...

IT'S PUNK ROCK. CREATIVITY DOESN'T MATTER.

tjtech12 04-08-2008 05:51 PM

Well, punk has always been around, I think, but in terms of bands, I think punk's roots lie in stuff like the who and the doors, since that's who the Ramones were emulating. Just playing faster.

Alfred 04-08-2008 05:58 PM

MC5, The Stooges and crap? Yeah, but that stuff wasn't really full-out punk, and neither were the bands. The Ramones were the first really consistant punk band.

sweet_nothing 04-08-2008 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 465981)
MC5, The Stooges and crap? Yeah, but that stuff wasn't really full-out punk, and neither were the bands. The Ramones were the first really consistant punk band.

no, the Stooges were. They're just as 'punk' as the Ramones.

Far Beyond Driven 04-08-2008 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 466000)
no, the Stooges were. They're just as 'punk' as the Ramones.

I agree

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 04-08-2008 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 465963)

IT'S PUNK ROCK. CREATIVITY DOESN'T MATTER.

you are a dumb bitch

Far Beyond Driven 04-08-2008 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The-Starving-Artless (Post 466007)
you are a dumb bitch

Well said

sweet_nothing 04-08-2008 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The-Starving-Artless (Post 466007)
you are a dumb bitch

for once I agree with you :beer:

Alfred 04-08-2008 07:47 PM

Okay?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 466000)
no, the Stooges were. They're just as 'punk' as the Ramones.

Well, they were definately moreso that way than a lot of their contemporaries, but I wouldn't look at them the same way as I do the mid seventies bands. There's definately punk in their music though, but "proto-punk" would be the best definition.

Nightstrikes 04-13-2008 11:23 PM

The sex pistols are godly. But you can't just say one band is better than another. Each one is different so just saying one is better is ludicrous.

respectmyauthoritah420 04-19-2008 01:32 PM

I'd choose The Ramones over the Clash, but The Clash would be better if Joe Strummer had a different voice.

Rainard Jalen 04-19-2008 02:07 PM

Meh. Tough question. I'll go with the Ramones for having honestly produced a greater number of good albums and probably being more diverse and eclectic too, all said and done.

sleepy jack 04-19-2008 05:11 PM

The Ramones have definitely produced more albums but I wouldn't say they were more diverse than the Clash, most bands aren't.

zekethefreak 09-02-2008 10:59 AM

Wow, I can't believe the responses I am seeing. I was just listening to The Ramones, the other night, with my wife. She kept wanting to skip to songs she recognized. As I explained to her, if you recognize one Ramones song, you recognize MOST Ramones songs. The Clash, on the other hand, were fountains of creativity. Never settling for simple 3 chord songs, they completely expanded their sound, with each album. SANDINISTA was a melting pot of nearly every musical style out there... with the exception of Country, and even then, they may have ventured into some Rockabilly, which has roots in Country.

NO QUESTION, it's The Clash.

Minstrel 09-02-2008 12:29 PM

The Sex Pistols are fantastic. The Stooges were punk. The term "proto-punk" gets applied to them (and the Modern Lovers, Patti Smith, MC5, etc) because the term "punk" wasn't in wide use at the time they were making their early music. Big deal. Labels are usually retroactive anyway. Their music absolutely had the sound that would later be called punk...had they made exactly the same music in 1977 or 1978, no one would even consider not calling them punk.

As for the Ramones and the Clash, I rate them about equally. The Ramones are better for adrenaline rush rock, like the Buzzc o c ks. The Clash were more expansive in their sound and more varied. But less pure energy and straight ahead rock. It's very mood-dependant to me.

Ghostrider 09-02-2008 12:42 PM

The Clash simply the best band to come out of the punk/new wave movement period.:)

Twisted Fish 09-02-2008 03:31 PM

The Clash by far, never could get into The Ramones.

Mordoth 09-02-2008 03:48 PM

They both suck.

Alfred 09-02-2008 03:59 PM

I voted Ramones, but I was on a Ramones-binge at the time. I'd have to vote The Clash now. Much more diverse, and they had more passion.

I mean, I bought one of their T-shirts over a Ramones one didn't I?




Mordoth, I have never disagreed with anyone more than I disagree with you.

sweet_nothing 09-02-2008 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordoth (Post 513750)
They both suck.

Funny coming from a Mordoth fan.


ZING!

GravitySlips 09-02-2008 05:54 PM

Mordoth hates metal too.

WHAT DOES HE LIKE?????!!!

Alfred 09-02-2008 06:20 PM

If he hates The Ramones AND The Clash, he hates life.


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