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Old 03-30-2008, 10:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Isn't 'Pop-Punk' an oxy moron?

Aren't 'pop' and 'punk' mutually exclusive opposites?
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Old 03-30-2008, 10:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Heh, good point.
I mean wait, do any bands actually classify themselves that way?..........What dumbasses
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Old 03-30-2008, 10:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Idealistically yes if you consider pop to be Britney Spears, soundwise no. Punk has always been very pop.
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Idealistically yes if you consider pop to be Britney Spears, soundwise no. Punk has always been very pop.
What? That's ridiculous.
Punk is so anti-pop, especially in its early days.
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Heh, good point.
I mean wait, do any bands actually classify themselves that way?..........What dumbasses
Yes, to name a few off the top of my head (And I ****ing hate the genre)

Greenday
Blink 182
Sum 41
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of course punk has always been very pop, because it's a very populist music form and therefore embraces a simple pop structure and simple pop chord progressions. aesthetically it was initially opposed to pop music because of its unorthodox use of feedback and aggressiveness, but these things have become much more ingrained into the mainstream over the last few decades. so no, punk and pop are not mutually exclusive.
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What? That's ridiculous.
Punk is so anti-pop, especially in its early days.
Don't even bother trying to argue with me. I know more about music than you do.
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Pop-punk is basically a mixture of extremely watered down punk, and 'edgy' pop. Common themes in pop punk include:

"The cool kids don't like me, WAHH!"
"My girlfriend dumped me, WAHH!"
"I'm not gonna be who you want me to be, WAHH!"

And I can't stand how nearly all of thier singers have irritating nasaly voices, as if they haven't even gone through puberty yet. Though having a deep voice might impeed on thier market appeal to thier primary fan base, 13 year old girls.
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You're talking about pop-rock, not pop-punk. There isn't anything punk about those kind of bands, not even stylistically.
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Pop-punk is basically a mixture of extremely watered down punk, and 'edgy' pop. Common themes in pop punk include:

"The cool kids don't like me, WAHH!"
"My girlfriend dumped me, WAHH!"
"I'm not gonna be who you want me to be, WAHH!"

And I can't stand how nearly all of thier singers have irritating nasaly voices, as if they haven't even gone through puberty yet. Though having a deep voice might impeed on thier market appeal to thier primary fan base, 13 year old girls.

or you could look at pop punk as being Mothermania, Say Anything, The D*ckies, The Ramones, or bleh I forgot my other example.

And I'm pretty sure The D*ckies didn't sing about cool kids or girlfriends. They liked Apes and killer clowns.
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