simple plan = absolute rubbish

rubbish i love that word

I <3 Simple Plan :)

I think they suck. They arent even a punk band. They make a great pop band, but they aren't punk by any standards. Pop punk is another idiotic phrase. Punk is no longer punk when it becomes popular. I'm sorry but thats the way it is! :banghead: It's either punk music or it's pop! End of story! :soapbox: ~Hero<(".<)

I do agree with Thrice though. Listen to what you want, and if people dont like it, tell them to piss off. That in itself is more punk than the music. ~Hero<(".<)

lol he doesnt really like simple plan he was being sarcastic

i dont see any energy in any pop-punk songs. that includes bands like Stink 182 and good charlotte. Ya they're making money and selling albums, but they're completely selling out. They just want their money. they dont care about their music. the people who like those kind of bands probably will refuse good bands like Black Flag, The Dead Kennedys, and Minor Threat. i guess pop-punk and mtv in a way is a good thing. it keeps real punk in the non-mainstream. Than again, its bad because most punk like anti-flag and pennywise and bad religion have a good message in their music. if they became popular, that'll be good so their message gets to peopl. but pop-punk gets the attention of the masses. i dont mind popular bands or people liking them. i just like to listen to bands that most people havn't even heard of. it sorta makes me individual when it comes to interests. as i said i dont mind popular bands, its just most popular bands tend to sell out

i don't think there's something wrong with a band becoming popular. If they keep playing the same kind of music then i'll still like them. It sure doesn't make them any more or less 'punk'.


especially if they aren't punk to begin with...

so, if the bands Rise Above listed suddenly became popular they wouldn't be punk anymore? Cuz liek, no one's heard of the Dead Kennedy's unless they only listen to pun k music rite?1!(sarcasm)

Yeah right dude. I bought their CD remember?

...anyways, i belive he was referring to my sig...