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N*SYNCisPUNK 11-27-2004 09:54 PM

What exactly is Punk?
 
Typically punk bands were thought of as only playing underground shows and fighting the establishment. But now bands like Good Charlotte and Simple Plan are considered punk by some. So what is punk defined as now?

jibber 11-27-2004 09:55 PM

i'm hoping your name is some kind of statement illustrating that if good charlotte and simple plan can be considered punk by some, then its not so much of a stretch to consider nsync as punk. well it is a stretch, a band needs to at the very least play insrtuments to be considered punk.

rotten_save 11-27-2004 10:06 PM

You cant really define punk!!! It was so much!!! and more!!! although perhaps now it is dead.

N*SYNCisPUNK 11-27-2004 10:08 PM

my name speaks for itself, but msync is what we are discussing

i agree that punk may be dead, but i still want to know EXACTLY what separates a punk band from the wanna-bes

rotten_save 11-27-2004 10:14 PM

Thats a hard question because nowadays you cant help be contradict yourself when you talk about whos real and who is pretending. many of the bands like simple plan and the newer generation havent really LIVED punk like how it was in the 70's. But i guess you could say that punk was about rebellion. But now you have these middle class-rich kids dressing punk and stuff!!! So it's not rebelling anymore.

Oi_To_The_World 11-28-2004 08:44 AM

i dont think you have to live a certain way to play punk music. i also dont think there are guys who pretend to live that way, especially matured adults. you cant say that "punk is dead" because theyve been saying that since the 80s. punk music is coming out in abundance (more so now than ever), and it may not be as good as the old shiiit, so if you dont like it, then maybe you should stick wit the bands from the past

rotten_save 11-28-2004 12:03 PM

But punk had its "values" if you couuld even cal them that but it IS rebelling!!!!!!
How can these people be rebelling if they are copying everyone else!!!!!?????

jesus 11-28-2004 02:31 PM

whenever anyone tries to 'define' punk someone always ends up getting mad because there just is no 'definition' for it. My thought is Good Charlotte and Simple Plan are pretty much only considered punk because of the way some of the guys dress and how things like MTV are saying it only because stuff like that sells.

Oi_To_The_World 11-28-2004 02:48 PM

^ i dunno. i think mtv calls it punk because theyre playing g unit and clay aiken right before gc videos. when you have some tool that has no idea what the fuk is going on, he/she is gonna call gc punk. especially when compared to rap or pop.

jesus 11-28-2004 04:19 PM

yeah but mtv is sitting there calling it punk half the time on their stupid shows which also probably helps. http://music.channel.aol.com/artist/...rtistid=442724 <that site even says they're ska haha(punk/ska)

Raine 11-28-2004 08:58 PM

Punk has definitely gone through it's major evolutions.
Sadly I wasn't there to watch the metamorphosis of it from the beginning.

Punk began with bands like the Ramones, and changed to something else with bands like Basement Jaxx, and a whole lot of others.

There are so many different kinds of punk now days.
there's thrash, emo, ska, techno, and some others.

I guess it's all in how you interpret it.

I define punk as just about anything too light to be heavy metal and has the attitude of a grunge band. I suppose garage bands can be punk too though.

bert 11-29-2004 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rotten_save
You cant really define punk!!! It was so much!!! and more!!! although perhaps now it is dead.

N*SYNCisPUNKmy name speaks for itself, but msync is what we are discussing

i agree that punk may be dead, but i still want to know EXACTLY what separates a punk band from the wanna-bes



agreed all but name :P i didnt evan say it there are 2 types of punk now punk music and punk lifestyle what you think is what you think

jibber 11-29-2004 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bert
N*SYNCisPUNKmy name speaks for itself, but msync is what we are discussing

i agree that punk may be dead, but i still want to know EXACTLY what separates a punk band from the wanna-bes



agreed all but name :P i didnt evan say it there are 2 types of punk now punk music and punk lifestyle what you think is what you think

draw the line for yourself. It's a matter of personal opinion, so form your own opinions instead of leaving it to others to dictate the guidleines to you. You're the one who's so against conforming to societal norms, and so proud of your so called "punk lifestyle", I would think that you'd already have formed your own opinion regarding this matter, you seem to be plenty opinionated on other matters.

All_Nite_Dinah 11-29-2004 07:15 PM

Punk is short for punka or punkah which is
1. A fan made from leaf-palm.
2. A large mechanical fan for cooling a room.

All_Nite_Dinah 11-29-2004 07:16 PM

Its also something used to light fireworks.

bert 11-30-2004 12:32 AM

you feel; high and mighty dont you?

All_Nite_Dinah 11-30-2004 06:31 AM

You didnt capatalize you and the semi colon wasnt needed.


Now I feel high and mighty.

swingkids. 11-30-2004 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N*SYNCisPUNK
Typically punk bands were thought of as only playing underground shows and fighting the establishment. But now bands like Good Charlotte and Simple Plan are considered punk by some. So what is punk defined as now?


these bands are not punk, they are pop
want a real punk band go listen to books lie.

jesus 11-30-2004 12:55 PM

isn't a punk also a guy with an older male..ahem...partner? cause i think i read that somewhere :laughing:

bert 12-01-2004 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by All_Nite_Dinah
You didnt capatalize you and the semi colon wasnt needed.


Now I feel high and mighty.

oooooo aslong as you feel good :nono:

Danko 12-05-2004 08:08 PM

You cant really define it. Pretty much everyone has there own definition.

sleepy jack 12-06-2004 10:03 PM

I know what punk.The best music on the planet just kidding.Its different for different people,like if you ask some dude in a good charlotte sweat band he'll probaly say simple plan,good charlotte and bowling for soup,if you ask a dude in ripped jeans a leather jaket and clash shirt he'll probaly say ramones,misfits and the clash.Its just diferent from person to person.

Invisible Spider 12-06-2004 10:54 PM

Whats the point about asking "what is punk?" I've seen plenty of post and threads about exactly the same thing...stop wasting time and talk about the music not what punk is...

Oi_To_The_World 12-06-2004 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Invisible Spider
Whats the point about asking "what is punk?" I've seen plenty of post and threads about exactly the same thing...stop wasting time and talk about the music not what punk is...

:rofl:

so true.

MyWorld 12-06-2004 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MIsfitspunk
I know what punk.The best music on the planet just kidding.Its different for different people,like if you ask some dude in a good charlotte sweat band he'll probaly say simple plan,good charlotte and bowling for soup,if you ask a dude in ripped jeans a leather jaket and clash shirt he'll probaly say ramones,misfits and the clash.Its just diferent from person to person.

Ok, but what if a person was wearing a Good Charlotte sweatband, ripped jeans, a leather jacket and a Clash shirt?

:band:

bert 12-07-2004 03:08 AM

i call that a wronge clash

jesus 12-07-2004 01:15 PM

I call it a person who isn't just confined to one genre of music...

But if they're claming good charlotte is punk then I also call it wrong

sleepy jack 12-07-2004 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MyWorld
Ok, but what if a person was wearing a Good Charlotte sweatband, ripped jeans, a leather jacket and a Clash shirt?

:band:

id say learn to dress right moron.

bert 12-07-2004 02:54 PM

you diss agree then agree make up your mind^:banghead: jesus

sleepy jack 12-07-2004 02:58 PM

are you talkin to me?

jesus 12-07-2004 03:01 PM

he was talking to me. I mean that if they're not claiming good charlotte is punk then i don't care but if they are saying good charlotte is punk then they're stupid

sleepy jack 12-07-2004 03:02 PM

oh i get it GC SUCKS!!!!!!!

bert 12-08-2004 02:54 AM

there we go we all agree on something... gc sucks and theres nothing they can do about it exept like kill averal or something but id still hate them

sleepy jack 12-08-2004 10:04 AM

exatly.^


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