What exactly is Punk? (dance, rap, Tool, shows, artist)

N*SYNCisPUNK · 11-27-2004, 09:54 PM

Typically punk bands were thought of as only playing underground shows and fighting the establishment. But now bands like Good Charlotte and Simple Plan are considered punk by some. So what is punk defined as now?

jibber · 11-27-2004, 09:55 PM

i'm hoping your name is some kind of statement illustrating that if good charlotte and simple plan can be considered punk by some, then its not so much of a stretch to consider nsync as punk. well it is a stretch, a band needs to at the very least play insrtuments to be considered punk.

rotten_save · 11-27-2004, 10:06 PM

You cant really define punk!!! It was so much!!! and more!!! although perhaps now it is dead.

N*SYNCisPUNK · 11-27-2004, 10:08 PM

my name speaks for itself, but msync is what we are discussing

i agree that punk may be dead, but i still want to know EXACTLY what separates a punk band from the wanna-bes

rotten_save · 11-27-2004, 10:14 PM

Thats a hard question because nowadays you cant help be contradict yourself when you talk about whos real and who is pretending. many of the bands like simple plan and the newer generation havent really LIVED punk like how it was in the 70's. But i guess you could say that punk was about rebellion. But now you have these middle class-rich kids dressing punk and stuff!!! So it's not rebelling anymore.

Oi_To_The_World · 11-28-2004, 08:44 AM

i dont think you have to live a certain way to play punk music. i also dont think there are guys who pretend to live that way, especially matured adults. you cant say that "punk is dead" because theyve been saying that since the 80s. punk music is coming out in abundance (more so now than ever), and it may not be as good as the old shiiit, so if you dont like it, then maybe you should stick wit the bands from the past

rotten_save · 11-28-2004, 12:03 PM

But punk had its "values" if you couuld even cal them that but it IS rebelling!!!!!!
How can these people be rebelling if they are copying everyone else!!!!!?????

jesus · 11-28-2004, 02:31 PM

whenever anyone tries to 'define' punk someone always ends up getting mad because there just is no 'definition' for it. My thought is Good Charlotte and Simple Plan are pretty much only considered punk because of the way some of the guys dress and how things like MTV are saying it only because stuff like that sells.

Oi_To_The_World · 11-28-2004, 02:48 PM

^ i dunno. i think mtv calls it punk because theyre playing g unit and clay aiken right before gc videos. when you have some tool that has no idea what the fuk is going on, he/she is gonna call gc punk. especially when compared to rap or pop.

jesus · 11-28-2004, 04:19 PM

yeah but mtv is sitting there calling it punk half the time on their stupid shows which also probably helps. http://music.channel.aol.com/artist/...rtistid=442724 <that site even says they're ska haha(punk/ska)

11-27-2004, 09:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
N*SYNCisPUNK Groupie Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9	What exactly is Punk? Typically punk bands were thought of as only playing underground shows and fighting the establishment. But now bands like Good Charlotte and Simple Plan are considered punk by some. So what is punk defined as now?

11-27-2004, 09:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
jibber Freeskier Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Istanbul was Constantinople now it's Istanbul not Constantinople... Posts: 1,536	i'm hoping your name is some kind of statement illustrating that if good charlotte and simple plan can be considered punk by some, then its not so much of a stretch to consider nsync as punk. well it is a stretch, a band needs to at the very least play insrtuments to be considered punk. __________________ What you've done becomes the judge of what you're going to do -- especially in other people's minds. When you're traveling, you are what you are right there and then. People don't have your past to hold against you. No yesterdays on the road. William Least Heat Moon, Blue Highways Your toughest competitor lives in your head. Some days his name is fear, or pain, or gravity. Stomp his ass. HOOKED ON THE WHITE POWDER

11-27-2004, 10:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
rotten_save Groupie Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Edmonton Posts: 8	Thats a hard question because nowadays you cant help be contradict yourself when you talk about whos real and who is pretending. many of the bands like simple plan and the newer generation havent really LIVED punk like how it was in the 70's. But i guess you could say that punk was about rebellion. But now you have these middle class-rich kids dressing punk and stuff!!! So it's not rebelling anymore. __________________ >>>>I did it My Way-Sid Vicious<<<<

11-28-2004, 08:44 AM	#6 (permalink)
Oi_To_The_World Unpatriot Act Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: planet of the rapes Posts: 389	i dont think you have to live a certain way to play punk music. i also dont think there are guys who pretend to live that way, especially matured adults. you cant say that "punk is dead" because theyve been saying that since the 80s. punk music is coming out in abundance (more so now than ever), and it may not be as good as the old shiiit, so if you dont like it, then maybe you should stick wit the bands from the past __________________ what is the mind? no matter. what is matter? never mind.

11-28-2004, 12:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
rotten_save Groupie Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Edmonton Posts: 8	But punk had its "values" if you couuld even cal them that but it IS rebelling!!!!!! How can these people be rebelling if they are copying everyone else!!!!!????? __________________ >>>>I did it My Way-Sid Vicious<<<<

11-27-2004, 10:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
rotten_save Groupie Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Edmonton Posts: 8	You cant really define punk!!! It was so much!!! and more!!! although perhaps now it is dead.

11-27-2004, 10:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
N*SYNCisPUNK Groupie Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9	my name speaks for itself, but msync is what we are discussing i agree that punk may be dead, but i still want to know EXACTLY what separates a punk band from the wanna-bes

11-28-2004, 02:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
jesus cat addict Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,061	whenever anyone tries to 'define' punk someone always ends up getting mad because there just is no 'definition' for it. My thought is Good Charlotte and Simple Plan are pretty much only considered punk because of the way some of the guys dress and how things like MTV are saying it only because stuff like that sells.

11-28-2004, 02:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
Oi_To_The_World Unpatriot Act Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: planet of the rapes Posts: 389	^ i dunno. i think mtv calls it punk because theyre playing g unit and clay aiken right before gc videos. when you have some tool that has no idea what the fuk is going on, he/she is gonna call gc punk. especially when compared to rap or pop. __________________ what is the mind? no matter. what is matter? never mind.

11-28-2004, 04:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
jesus cat addict Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,061	yeah but mtv is sitting there calling it punk half the time on their stupid shows which also probably helps. http://music.channel.aol.com/artist/...rtistid=442724 <that site even says they're ska haha(punk/ska)