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FRED HALE SR. 07-07-2011 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1081985)
"Cacophony" is a great record. You guys are crazy.

I thought it was the beginning of Blinko's trip to the funny farm. It was disjointed and sounded like he blended it together from tidbits of songs. I'm mostly alone in thought with my friends on this. The general consensus was that it was a Good album from them, but i find it tiresome to listen to. I do own it however.

BastardofYoung 07-07-2011 03:39 PM

I like it for that reason. It is a testament to Nick's insanity. It is disjointed and all that... but it is raw human emotion as well. No pretention, nothing.. it is vivid, scary and real. There is to me an element of human nature at it's finest. It is like a trip into Nick's brain. It is weird, and strange.. but it is real. Maybe part of it for me is experiencing mental illness similar to Nick's.. and it makes more sense to me in that regard.

But I think it is a great evolution as well. The addition of Death Rock in the sound was good.

FRED HALE SR. 07-07-2011 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1081988)
I like it for that reason. It is a testament to Nick's insanity. It is disjointed and all that... but it is raw human emotion as well. No pretention, nothing.. it is vivid, scary and real. There is to me an element of human nature at it's finest. It is like a trip into Nick's brain. It is weird, and strange.. but it is real. Maybe part of it for me is experiencing mental illness similar to Nick's.. and it makes more sense to me in that regard.

But I think it is a great evolution as well. The addition of Death Rock in the sound was good.

Yeah between my friends and I its a consensus that he was going through some very heavy stuff during the recording of that album. It certainly wasn't pretentious, Blinko always talks from the heart and its always very heavy. He certainly went a different path with that album, and i can respect your opinion as you explained it very well. I also noted the death rock slant in a few songs, which turned out to be the better of the music on that album IMO.

BastardofYoung 07-07-2011 04:11 PM

I look at it like I would say Wesley Willis, Larry "Wild Man" Fisher or to a degree even say Daniel Johnston. To people who do not know the history or mental state of the artist making it, it may just seem like a total mess... it borders on the outsider art. But to know those people and their mindframe it makes perfect sense in the context it should be heard, but taken out of context, it will just seem bad I suppose.

I remember playing this song by Wesley Willis for some people in the health care field who work with people with mental illness.


Anyways, I have had a fair bit of them all be taken back by this one. One even said "I think everybody in the field should listen to this, for it could really help them understand mental illness and the way these people think. This should be something they all hear and hopefully take something from and maybe if they did we could work so much harder with them, because many are not understood like they should be"

That amazed me, to hear somebody say that, to me was like... I agree. Mental Illness is something a lot are still in the dark about.. and listening to this song, or any of the artists i discussed could be good for them.

FRED HALE SR. 07-07-2011 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1081991)
I look at it like I would say Wesley Willis, Larry "Wild Man" Fisher or to a degree even say Daniel Johnston. To people who do not know the history or mental state of the artist making it, it may just seem like a total mess... it borders on the outsider art. But to know those people and their mindframe it makes perfect sense in the context it should be heard, but taken out of context, it will just seem bad I suppose.

I remember playing this song by Wesley Willis for some people in the health care field who work with people with mental illness.


Anyways, I have had a fair bit of them all be taken back by this one. One even said "I think everybody in the field should listen to this, for it could really help them understand mental illness and the way these people think. This should be something they all hear and hopefully take something from and maybe if they did we could work so much harder with them, because many are not understood like they should be"

That amazed me, to hear somebody say that, to me was like... I agree. Mental Illness is something a lot are still in the dark about.. and listening to this song, or any of the artists i discussed could be good for them.

Pretty strange song, It certainly lends itself to being the voice of someone mentally ill. I also try to envision the path of a song and the creative ideas and input behind it, always found it very interesting, especially with alot of the Grateful Dead stuff i used to listen to on a daily basis. Pretty interesting stuff, I appreciate the discussion its been educational.


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