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1. Black Flag - My War
2. Wire - Pink Flag 3. Middle Class - Out of Vogue 4. Teen Idols - Minor Disturbance 5. The Crucif*cks - The Crucif*cks 6. Amebix - Arise! 7. Descendents - Milo Goes to College 8. Flipper - Generic 9. Minutemen - Double Nickles on the Dime 10. Circle Jerks - Group Sex Honorable mentions: MDC - MDC Reagen Youth - A Collection of Pop Classics Wipers - Youth of America The Adolescents - Adolescents Angry Samoans - Back From Samoa Bad Brains - Bad Brains The Damned - Machine Gun Etiquette Dead Kennedys - Bedtime For Democracy Misfits - Static Age Rudimentary Peni - The EPs of RP MDC - MDC The Vibrators - Pure Mania Urinals - Negative Capability The Ramones - Ramones |
Nice list Hank.
I'll have to think mine up and I might make a few because I have alot. |
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10. I Know You Fine, But How You Doin' - The Gories/ Six Cold Feet 9. Catholic Boy - Jim Carroll Band/ People Who Died 8. Solid Action - U-Men/ Green Trumpet 7. Another Wasted Night - GangGreen/ Alcohol 6. Where The Wild Things Are/Landshark - Fang/ F.U.C.K. Y.O.U. 5. Hope For Men - Pissed Jeans/ Fantasy World 4. 12 Point Buck - Killdozer/ Man Vs. Nature 3. Goat - Jesus Lizard/ Seasick 2. Buzz or Growl - Minutemen/ I Felt Like A Gringo 1. Fun House - The Stooges/ T.V. Eye |
Wow, 9 pages and no mention of The Dwarves?! Damn, this is insanity! Haha
Here's my top ten punk albums, or any major derivation from punk. I'm going on the assumption we're making lists of our favorites and not a list of what we think influenced punk the most. No real order: 10. The Dwarves - Blood, Guts, and Pussy 9. The Briggs - Numbers 8. Asking For It - Happy Birthday Hitler 7. The Distillers S/T 6. Morning Glory - There Is No Time Ta Sleep 5. The Shockwaves - Pankastroika 4. The Wednesday Night Heroes - Guilty Pleasures 3. Against All Authority - All Fall Down 2. The Barons Of Tang - Knots And Tangles 1. The Dreadnoughts - Victory Square As for religious bigot man, you're just as ignorant and intolerant as a Jehovah's Witness. |
I like Jay Dubs. They don't pretend to be punk.
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in no particular order:-
Husker Du - Land Speed Record Fugazi - Red Medicine The Replacements - Sorry Ma Forgot to Take out the Trash The Clash - s/t The Stooges - s/t The Ramones - s/t The Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables Black Flag - Damaged Minutemen - Double Nickles on the Dime The Dead Boys - Young, Loud & Snotty |
i forgot the others
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I don't think I could ever do a list of favourite punk albums because Id end up wrestling with all of those questions like "are the slits punk or post-punk" or "are Beat Happening punk are they just lo-fi" and all of that crap.
There is a serious problem of definiton with punk. |
Green Day Insomniac. Real **** right there. And how is Korn a punk band?
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I do not know if I can pick just 10... But 10 I would tell the newcomers to the style to start with (off the top of my head):
Dead Boys - Young, Loud and Snotty NoMeansNo - Wrong Stiff Little Fingers - Inflammable Material The Vibrators - Pure Mania Black Flag - My War Bad Brains - ROIR [or just "Bad Brains" if you prefer] DOA - Something Better Change Dayglo Abortions - Feed Us a Fetus SNFU - ...And No One Else Wanted to Play Wipers - Youth of America I do not know if I could come up with a 10 best list... would take me a long time to compile a list.. and would revise it all the time. |
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1. Rudimentary Peni- Death Church 2. Discharge- Why 3. Germs- GI 4. RKL- Beautiful Feeling 5. Adolescents- ST 6. Conflict- Its time to see who's who. 7. Fear- The Record 8. UK Subs- Diminished Responsibility 9. GBH- City baby attacked by rats 10. Dr. Know- We got power, party or go home. |
Same to you. I would probably include that Rudimentry Peni album for sure, as well as the albums by Adolescents and Germs as well. Discharge is a band I have heard, but not enough to say if i would rank it in the top. The only one I might knock off the top 10 in that list myself would be FEAR. I love "The Record", but it is not really a top 10 album to me either. Maybe just cause I have always been kinda impartial to Lee Ving himself and find him to be kind of an idiot... but that album was a good one, just not one I find has a lot of replay value over time.
10 more I would add to my list, like a to check out part 2: Agent Orange - Living in Darkness The Dicks - Kill From the Heart Husker Du - Things Fall Apart The Replacements - Sorry Ma, Forgot to Take Out the Trash Minor Threat - Complete Discography Angry Samoans - Inside My Brain Slow - Against the Glass The F.U.'s - Kill for Christ Zero Boys - Vicious Circle Void/The Faith - Split |
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Yeah. Reagan Youth is a good band. I added Paul Bakija on facebook the other day actually. He is really cool and takes the time to answer questions for fans if they ask him something. Nice guy.
Somebody asked him recently how he got the sound on those early albums, and tips on how to do it and what equipment he used, he responded: "Hey Jim, If you look at the info on the first record, it says "recorded between Spring 1983 to Spring 1984. That's over a year ! And for seven songs that averaged a minute and a half in length. That's a lot of time spent recording for such a short time ofmusic. Now a whole bunch of time was spent on getting the guitar to sound down. Back when I recorded those early songs I used an audioworks distortion box and played through fender amps and sometimes marshalls. Sometimes I'd record directly into the board and when I did that I'd listen to the guitar sound coming through the speakers and it sounded awesome. some off those songs were recorded that way, but that could sound thin as well, so you can always double up the guitar. Anythng is possible when recording, don't forget that. Bottom line is this; plug your guitar into an amp you think sounds best and microphone placement is really important. I like to have the amp facing a wall and I put the microphone in between the speaker and the wall so the sound from the amp bounces off the wall and back at the microphone. There's a lot you can do so have fun with it and don't let yourself ever get frustrated. This should be a labor of love,guyitar the ultimate guitar tone down. Always think dirty sounding, a metallic sound like you get from the Big Muff distirtion box. I think I'm gonna have to buy one just thinking about it......lol Oh, and the guitar I used was a Les Paul copy by Ibanez from the 70's. Ibanez made great copies. So great Gibson sued them.....lol Definitely use a guitar with humbuckers, no single coils if you want that dirty, metallic sound from the early Reagan Youth recordings. I hope I've benn some help, and keep rockin' that guitar ! Good luck, -Paul" yeah, typos and all in that are are straight from the man himself. Really cool that he answered the question, and did it really quickly. Like 10 minutes after being asked. |
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Yeah. I have met a few guys from the punk scene over the years, and all of them have been nice and really friendly. There is always that moment though when you go to approach them, especially after a set where on stage you see they can be dicks... but you meet and chat with them after and realise how much of it is just a stage persona and they are not like that offstage.
I remember one of my favorites was The Black Halos, I chatted with them for a few minutes and they were nice, Billy chatted with me like a person, and soon after meeting them they had me by the stage doing background vocals, signing stuff for me and they even invited me to an after party and treated me like I was one of them. I still talk to Billy and he is always cool to me. That is why I loved the punk scene, i remember being that dorky looking kid at 14 with no friends, cause everything thought i was just a freak. I went to shows before and people just kinda passed me up and ignored me. So first punk show I went to was a band called d.b.s. from Vancouver I believe. I was nervous and sitting by myself in the corner of the building.. to afraid to talk to anyone there cause I was just a weirdo outcast. This one girl walked up to me and said "man, come on get out there and dance, have some fun with us"... it just made me go... what the... nobody ever talks to me or approaches me, i was taken back by it and they all welcomed me llike I was just another cool person. That was what made me fall in love with the scene and for once made me feel accepted. I get that at shows all the time, people coming up to me and saying, come on get out there ! It was to me a case of, you can jump on stage and sing with them.. the people in the crowd are on the same level as the people on the stage and there is freedom in it. Sure, every now and then you meet that band that kinda does the opposite. But the majority of times, they are just normal guys connecting with the crowd. That is what got me into the scene, it felt like a family, no matter who you were, if you were respectful and didnt cause sh*t or be an idiot, they welcomed you as the outcast you were and treated you like you were an equal. There was no pretentious crap, it was all very cool. That acceptance at the d.b.s. show just made me go... screw all those other scenes, this is where I belong, where even an oddball like me can be accepted for who i am. I have since since that turn around in recent years here though, and seen it become more a fashion contest and a herd mentality.. and that always bothers me. To see it reduced to a popularity contest to many here is a kick in the face to me to what the scene should be. It is happening more and more, it is changing. The old timers still have it, but as generations change it seems to be shifting to a more popularity contest. |
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Also, the other thing that gets me is when the idiot cretins took over. Give you a little story as to what I mean.
the d.b.s. show took place here at a place called The Snell Auditiorium. Which was a little room in the basement of the local library here. It held maybe 50 people when the stage was up, but whatever.. lucky if these shows got 20-25 people on a good day.. usually. They usually didn't put on anything other than readings and presentations in the room before, but they let us use it for shows. For a few months I went to shows there, they had them every weekend, be like $5 for 6 bands. Anyways, this went on for a couple of months. They shut it down though soon after... They were always good to us. These shows took place after the library closed, they let us in there and put their trust in us and all went well until the last show they had they left the grabbajabba open for us, the little stand where you could get coffee and snacks when the library was open. They put out coffee for us and a few snacks and some cans of coke..and said help yourself to these on us. Basically just a bunch of machines that were set up and a note that said, just turn it on and make yourself some coffee Well, 4 big drug addicted nazi punks came to that show. They were taking kids out back and beating the crap out of them, putting them in trash cans and stealing their money.. they outpowered all of us little kids, they were older and would carry knives and had razor blades on their jackets. Just idiots. They then came in and proceeded to go to the grabbajabba, thrash it... break cases, throw around the coffee machines, stomp fruit on the ground and all this crap... we did all we could after they left, we cleaned it up and did what we could and left a note saying sorry, and explaining that this was not the fault of the kids in there and would do what we could to help the staff with whatever money would had or anything. But of course that didnt fly and they blamed it on us all, and said... no more shows here. So a couple of boneheads ruined what was a great scene for everyone else, because they were disrespectful assh*les. That was the only place that had all ages punk shows at the time, so all the kids got screwed over. Those type of people are just what make people think punk is that way, and that always pissed me off. |
In no order:
Jerry's Kids-Is this my world? Infest-Slave Dead Kennedys-Fresh fruit for rotting vegetables Ripcord-Poetic justice Napalm Death-Scum Black Flag-Damaged Discharge-Hear nothing,see nothing,say nothing 7 Seconds Old school Negative Approach-Tied down No Security From the splitlp with Valvontakommissio Only half an album,but still.... |
Jerry's Kids = great.
Boston had some great punk bands, Jerry's Kids were amongst the best of em.. though I think The F.U.'s were kings. |
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Side A was more punk influenced, Side B was more metal.
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I dunno i always thought Scum was just pretty fast hardcore punk than grindcore
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as above. Side A was more in debt to Hardcore Punk.
Bullens half was more hardcore, Dorrians half was more metal. I would say Side A of "Scum" fits into the criteria of punk. |
Napalm Death spent the first 4 or 5 years of their career playing alongside punk acts.
It wasn't until Nic Bullen and Justin Broadrick left and people like Shane Embury, Lee Dorrian & Bill Steer joined that the metal element was added to their music. |
1. Doolittle - Pixies(would anyone else consider this punk, I know Pixies are considered alternative, but I consider them art-punk)
2. London Calling - The Clash 3. Raw Power - Iggy and the Stooges 4. Marquee Moon - Television 5. Pink Flag - Wire 6. Never Mind the Bollocks - The Sex Pistols 7. Ramones - Ramones 8. The Stooges - The Stooges(does this count? The answer in my head is yes but I'm not as well versed in punk as I could be) 9. Minor Threat - Minor Threat 10. Zen Arcade - Husker Du |
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Scum has some metal riffing,but is more of a hardcore album. |
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Bedtime for Democracy is the worst DK album. but other than that some good choices.
It is "Damaged" by the way. |
10. Raw power (the stooges)
9. Closer (Joy division) 8. Vs. (Mission of Burma) 7. G.I (The germs) 6. Double Nickels on the Dime (Minutemen) 5. Against the grain (The stooges) 4. Damaged (black flag) 3. Against the grain (bad religion) 2. Chairs missing (Wire) 1. Zen Arcade (Hüsker dü) |
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2. Secondhand Daylight - Magazine 3. IV Rattus Norvegicus - Stranglers 4. Black and White - Stranglers 5. Marquee Moon - Television 6. No More Heroes - Stranglers 7. Parallel Lines - Blondie 8. Secondhand Daylight - Magazine 9. Ghosts of Princes in Towers 10. New Boots and Panties - Ian Dury and the Blockheads Wild card - (I'm) Stranded - The Saints |
top 10 punk albums
1. RKL - Riches to Rags
2. The Adicts - 27 3. Screeching Weasel - My Brain Hurts 4. Subhumans - The Day The Country Died 5. The Germs - Media Blitz 6. Reagan Youth - Collection of Pop Classics 7. Leftover Crack - Mediocre Generica 8. GBH - Leather, Bristles, Studs And Acne 9. DYS - Brotherhood 10. NOFX - Punk in Drublic |
Awsome 10 man! ****in love the stooges!
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If I were to make a list, it might look kinda like this.
Bad Brains - s/t Hüsker Dü - Zen Arcade Black Flag - Damaged Doom - War Crimes Agent Orange - Living in the Darkness Suicide - s/t Television - Marquee Moon NoMeansNo - Wrong Flipper - Gone Fishin' Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime |
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Great list. "Wrong" is my favorite album in punk. |
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