What defines punk?

Howard the Duck · 03-31-2011, 06:50 AM

punk for me is basically I, IV, V power chords played monotonally, a singer who can't sing, a straight 4/4 thwack drumbeat, one-note bassline

but I'm really just describing The Ramones, I suppose there's more to punk than that - I only really listen to them and the 1st wave of British punk and Refused

dankrsta · 03-31-2011, 09:55 AM

^Yeah, that's basically it.

I don't really listen to, that often, what could be considered as pure punk, or punk-rock, but I looove when I hear this minimal punk aesthetic, DIY and 'I don't five a ****' attitude in other music. When everything becomes possible, rules are there to be broken...well, you get post-punk actually. That's when a real musical adventure begins. So, punk, although limited musically, was very liberating mentally. That is its most important legacy, imo.

Howard the Duck · 03-31-2011, 09:58 AM

then there's hardcore punk - which is another kettle of fish

Connair · 03-31-2011, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dankrsta

^Yeah, that's basically it.

I don't really listen to, that often, what could be considered as pure punk, or punk-rock, but I looove when I hear this minimal punk aesthetic, DIY and 'I don't five a ****' attitude in other music. When everything becomes possible, rules are there to be broken...well, you get post-punk actually. That's when a real musical adventure begins. So, punk, although limited musically, was very liberating mentally. That is its most important legacy, imo.

I agree. I think that punk music doesn't get the recognition it deserves. I'm not a huge punk fan, but the more I listen to it I realize how awesome it really is. So many things come from punk that we don't really think about.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 03-31-2011, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dankrsta

Who is the prison bitch of the industry? Rock critics, or punks and indies?

Rock critics used it as a derogatory term for DIY acts. Like 'Krautrock'. I'm not saying anything is the prison bitch. The word 'punk' started as what they call bitches in prison.

Moon Pix 1985 · 04-21-2011, 12:37 PM

I think that Ted Leo got it right when he said that punk was originally an attempt to get back to basic rock n' roll. That is number one. All of that other stuff (the DIY ethic, politics, musical freedom etc) came after.

Its important to remember that all of the original punk bands had managers and major label record deals. Likewise, they werent all political. That raw basic sound is really the only thing that they all have in common.

~~The Virgin~~ · 04-21-2011, 12:41 PM

To me punk is a young man who is the sexual partner of an older man.

i've got basis for this:
punk - definition of punk by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 04-21-2011, 01:11 PM

Please leave this thread.

Howard the Duck · 04-21-2011, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Virgin

To me punk is a young man who is the sexual partner of an older man.

i've got basis for this:
punk - definition of punk by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

that's cool also

OccultHawk · 04-22-2011, 04:31 AM

82 or before
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Despises traditional values, government, and religion

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dankrsta ... Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,776	^Yeah, that's basically it. I don't really listen to, that often, what could be considered as pure punk, or punk-rock, but I looove when I hear this minimal punk aesthetic, DIY and 'I don't five a ****' attitude in other music. When everything becomes possible, rules are there to be broken...well, you get post-punk actually. That's when a real musical adventure begins. So, punk, although limited musically, was very liberating mentally. That is its most important legacy, imo. __________________ Last.fm

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Howard the Duck Live by the Sword Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 9,075	punk for me is basically I, IV, V power chords played monotonally, a singer who can't sing, a straight 4/4 thwack drumbeat, one-note bassline but I'm really just describing The Ramones, I suppose there's more to punk than that - I only really listen to them and the 1st wave of British punk and Refused

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Howard the Duck Live by the Sword Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 9,075	then there's hardcore punk - which is another kettle of fish

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Moon Pix 1985 Groupie Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 23	I think that Ted Leo got it right when he said that punk was originally an attempt to get back to basic rock n' roll. That is number one. All of that other stuff (the DIY ethic, politics, musical freedom etc) came after. Its important to remember that all of the original punk bands had managers and major label record deals. Likewise, they werent all political. That raw basic sound is really the only thing that they all have in common.

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~~The Virgin~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cebu, Philippines Posts: 677	To me punk is a young man who is the sexual partner of an older man. i've got basis for this: punk - definition of punk by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

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OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,033	82 or before Angry Despises traditional values, government, and religion