If it is, good. Ridiculous nonsense genre.

I guess this is growing up.

Pop punk is music for the kids, we all went through that phase when we were 14 and most of us have grown out of it and recognise it as horribly limited and uninspiring music mostly. Its not really punk, i'd never use the word to describe bands like sum41, greenday and good charlotte etc

Well, the bands you mention above do indeed suck. But some of that positive California stuff wasn't too bad. Pennywise put out some good tunes.

pop punk is not dead
 

That sad part is the scene is decided by little emo kids calling bands like boys like girls pop punk... the genre is so vague now adays

POP/PUNK is that an antimony?

Pop is what's on the charts, not exactly a genre per se. At one time the stuff that makes it on the charts was listener-freindly - not any more it's just offensively lousey. I mean it is still not very sophisticated or rough like certain types of "heavy music."

Punk is a sub-genre of Rock n Roll, aka Punk Rock. During the 70's in the UK Punk started off as music that made it on the charts. It became progressively more and more agressive. Punk had slipt off into different directions Hardcore (Punk), New Wave and Post-Punk. It was during the hardcore years that it really became anti-Pop.

I do admit that Squirtgun were/still is a guilty pleasure of mine.

Clearly no one in this thread listens to The Copyrights or Dillinger Four.

Not much of a Dillinger Four fan, I like a few Copyrights songs.