Punk is anti-political, if anything. Most of that music is about the bull**** of politics, not about any sort of political consciousness or ideology.

Against politics yea that's usually apparent. But no political consciousness or ideology? I disagree. Fascism, police corruption, government, authority, situationism were all addressed. The politics behind anarchy meant breaking the restraints towards freedom and in benefit to others. It wasn't all just some mindless rebel thing (though considerably it is with some punk bands out there).

The ideology of anarchy?

If you speak of anarchy in more pragmatic terms, such as the decentralization of power from the established government, then yes punk really was and is about that. It doesn't need to stay in the domain of a lofty, political philosophy though. The very much alive DIY scene is proof of that. But [for the OP] to bitch about punk being dead... Throw a house show with bands playing your basement. That, or shut the **** up. Punk is as alive as you want it to be.

well all whats been playing on Music radios,tvs is one Genre ,,,Techno ,,,nowadays most artists focus more on commercial ,,,,n forget about the quality ,,,Punk is not dead but i guess Punk bands ,,or the genre generally is not how its used to be,,its like its being ignored or replaced by other genres,,,just my point guys :)

It's not a good point, though. Or coherent.

Yeah its true Keith Morris confirmed it.

I probably didn't explain myself very well, (some) thrash bands can be considered punk, since they ARE punk in the ideology and attitude. Example: Ratos de Porão, recent Violator, Sepultura... Punk is so much more than just the music. I consider (political) grindcore to be really punk.

Good riddance, I know this thread is aimed more at the "scene" than it is at the music but straight up punk is some of them most uninteresting, uninspired, simplistic, and downright lazy music ever made. No doubt punk has inspired a good deal of great music, but most of that music takes a small nugget of punks overall aesthetic and avoids the boring songwriting, lazy playing, and self-centered nihilistic attitudes that define punk music. As far as the scene itself goes, punk did bring about some good, namely D.I.Y. in art, but overall it's mostly a bunch of ignorant college dropouts spewing half baked ideas devoid of any real substance.

P.s. I'm seriously not trying to troll-it just bugs me that somehow people put punk up on this pedestal as some kind of intellectual movement based around a good music scene when I see it as the exact opposite.