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hegemon 08-16-2012 07:49 PM

Bad Brains is still touring. I have friends who have an entirely punk record label. Punk is alive, and it may look different, but I believe with the aging it is just getting better and better. Try telling Keith Morris that punk is dead.

Simas1330 09-15-2012 12:56 PM

Well, you obviously don't know much about punk music, besides the big names that everyone knows. Punk is very much alive, and not only in the genre, but also in the movement. No one here even mentioned Crust punk, or thrash. Also, where did you get the silly idead that deathcore and metalcore are derived from punk. Seriously, start getting informed.

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Punk is dead? what a ****ing joke!
Did you wanna sound cool or were you just high on coke?
Since when do you own it to call it quits?
Was it not punk last night's show with the kids?

Or maybe you're right and we're just dumbass ****s
Cause we went to your show and we payed 20 bucks
To see a washed up loser the kids used to look up to
I'll speak for myself and say I ****ing hate you!

If punk is dead why don't you ****ing quit?
Stop acting like you're the ****ing ****!
Cause your time is up you lame old ****ing prick
Suck it up jerk and ****ing deal with it

You're ****, and your band is dead
And your reunions are just ****ing sad
Talk ****, but these kids still shout
And we're still part of what punk is all about

We're still part of what punk is all about

If it's dead why dont you go away?
I guess you've got some bills to pay
And I'm sure it isn't cheap to pay for all your junk
Still we're the ones who're dead and you're the king of punk
Right?

You're ****, and your band is dead
And your reunions are just ****ing sad
Talk ****, but these kids still shout
And we're still part of what punk is all about

The Skrotes

Janszoon 09-15-2012 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Simas1330 (Post 1231379)
Well, you obviously don't know much about punk music, besides the big names that everyone knows. Punk is very much alive, and not only in the genre, but also in the movement. No one here even mentioned Crust punk, or thrash. Also, where did you get the silly idead that deathcore and metalcore are derived from punk. Seriously, start getting informed.

No one mentioned thrash because thrash isn't punk.

Sansa Stark 09-15-2012 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Simas1330 (Post 1231379)
Well, you obviously don't know much about punk music, besides the big names that everyone knows. Punk is very much alive, and not only in the genre, but also in the movement. No one here even mentioned Crust punk, or thrash. Also, where did you get the silly idead that deathcore and metalcore are derived from punk. Seriously, start getting informed.

It's p funny that everyone who says that listens to/writes horrible music.

Rjinn 09-15-2012 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Simas1330 (Post 1231379)
Well, you obviously don't know much about punk music, besides the big names that everyone knows. Punk is very much alive, and not only in the genre, but also in the movement. No one here even mentioned Crust punk, or thrash. Also, where did you get the silly idead that deathcore and metalcore are derived from punk. Seriously, start getting informed.

Thrash metal was influenced by hardcore punk, and was an early trait of the genre formation in the 70s and 80s, along with early roots of heavy metal. It had an effect on metal bands to come because of the influence it had on the rest of the genre...

Quote:

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Punk is dead? what a ****ing joke!
Did you wanna sound cool or were you just high on coke?
Since when do you own it to call it quits?
Was it not punk last night's show with the kids?

Or maybe you're right and we're just dumbass ****s
Cause we went to your show and we payed 20 bucks
To see a washed up loser the kids used to look up to
I'll speak for myself and say I ****ing hate you!

If punk is dead why don't you ****ing quit?
Stop acting like you're the ****ing ****!
Cause your time is up you lame old ****ing prick
Suck it up jerk and ****ing deal with it

You're ****, and your band is dead
And your reunions are just ****ing sad
Talk ****, but these kids still shout
And we're still part of what punk is all about

We're still part of what punk is all about

If it's dead why dont you go away?
I guess you've got some bills to pay
And I'm sure it isn't cheap to pay for all your junk
Still we're the ones who're dead and you're the king of punk
Right?

You're ****, and your band is dead
And your reunions are just ****ing sad
Talk ****, but these kids still shout
And we're still part of what punk is all about

The Skrotes
Wow, what an inspiring song. Makes me believe punk is dead actually...

Neapolitan 09-15-2012 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Simas1330 (Post 1231379)
Well, you obviously don't know much about punk music, besides the big names that everyone knows. Punk is very much alive, and not only in the genre, but also in the movement. No one here even mentioned Crust punk, or thrash. Also, where did you get the silly idead that deathcore and metalcore are derived from punk. Seriously, start getting informed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rjinnx (Post 1231442)
Thrash metal was influenced by hardcore punk, and was an early trait of the genre formation in the 70s and 80s, along with early roots of heavy metal. It had an effect on metal bands to come because of the influence it had on the rest of the genre...



Wow, what an inspiring song. Makes me believe punk is dead actually...

Thanks for telling him, he needed desperately to be seriously informed. :)

Neapolitan 09-25-2012 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ophion1031 (Post 1234602)
Punk IS Dead??? Yes, I agree!!! Punk was kind of a F-You to everyone and everything, and then these "pop-punk" bands come out and have reality shows on MTV and become all commercial and kids think "Oh cool, I'm gonna be punk! Travis Barker is so punk!! I want a mohawk just like his!!" LAME!!!!!

I don't know about that, in the very beginning the Rezillos, the Buzzcocks and The Ramones weren't like that. It wasn't till later when it turned more and more hardcore that Punk became like that.

Unknown Soldier 09-25-2012 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1234618)
I don't know about that, in the very beginning the Rezillos, the Buzzcocks and The Ramones weren't like that. It wasn't till later when it turned more and more hardcore that Punk became like that.

The Sex Pistols were the ones that really gave punk its "fuck off and fuck everything image" they were infamous for it on UK TV and media in the late 1970s. But then again The Doors, Iggy Pop and MC5 were doing the same thing a decade before and all are big influences on punk. Bands like the Buzzcocks were a bridge between punk and new-wave so behaved, whilst bands like the Dead Kennedys bridged the gap between the Sex Pistols and hardcore punk. The Ramones always seemed to be about having a good time in a heavily drug induced way and influenced a whole load of the future more commercial punk bands.

Forward To Death 09-25-2012 05:16 PM

Punk is a rejection of norms, not being the biggest ******* you can be. The Sex Pistols were an act.

Rjinn 09-25-2012 05:32 PM

A lot of punk is a political stand, especially when it came forth. I don't think The Sex Pistols were an act. They brought forth questionable issues and addressed the "rot in society", as did The Clash, Dead Kennedys, Buzzcocks etc.


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