The Batlord |
03-20-2013 09:10 AM |
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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?
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So in other words Crass' music changed nothing. Some tape that happened to be compiled by a member of Crass did. Like I said, I can respect Crass for actually living up to their ideals, but using music to do so is rather useless.
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Originally Posted by Cenotaph
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What are you going on about? That is utter nonsense.
Music has had a tremendous impact on the development of civilization. Hell, just look at western classical music. It not only helped shape the countries within each of the eras (Renaissance, Classical, Baroque, etc),
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How did it "help shape the countries within each of the eras"? You can't just make a statement like this and not explain it.
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but it also held an accurate representation of what was going on at the time. So, it helps set and reflect the norm in a given time period and/or culture.
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Of course music can be seen as a reflection of the mood of the times. This doesn't mean it's doing anything other than being some sort of creative outlet. I can whine and bitch about anything, but whining and bitching alone accomplishes nothing.
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This can be said about any type of music actually. You could even look at popular music as an example... like with the band The Plastic People and its ties to the Velvet Revolution. Folk music as well... Vladimir Oidupaa, a Tuvan throat-singer, was imprisoned by his country's government because they were frightened by his growing influence.
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Meh. There's always gonna be isolated incidents, but these are so few and far between as to make trying to make political change through music to be largely pointless. If you wanna change something maybe you should actually get involved in something.
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Music is a form of communication and a powerful one at that. It inspires people, and to think that all of that is based on a very superficial, skin-deep level. We could go into much more detail if you wish to, but I don't feel that this discussion warrants that.
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Again, meh. Maybe in some dictatorship where people are just looking for something to rally around there's an outside chance of music affecting any real change, but in England or America people have food, shelter, and are relatively safe, so they don't really feel the need to be up in arms about anything. And they certainly aren't gonna listen to a bunch of musicians who would probably find something to be pissed off about no matter where they were. You know, cause they're just self righteous twenty somethings who just wanna be pissed off about whatever they can justify being pissed off about.
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