The great hardcore/punk countdown

Newkie · 03-15-2013, 12:01 PM

You shoulda stuck to your guns William! Although I would say they should have been higher, I always get the feeling I never "got" Bad Brains. Can't fault their influence or impact, I just never liked them that massively.

FRED HALE SR. · 03-15-2013, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

Note on Bad Brains

Allright ask and you shall receive, I had a feeling that I dropped the ball on this one,
so I will move them up the ladder, I'm not sure where yet, but they won't show up for a bit.

I'm still not sold on the first album, it's more their reggae that I'm interested in reviewing. There are two other reggae interludes on here, so I need to sit down and review it.

Finally, I don't like taking notes on race, but they are an afro punk band that throws their own cultural sound into the mix. I've already noted I'm not a fan of fusion, but I'll give em another go, though their is a much better band of brothers on this list.

Ok from here on out the list gets pretty competitive, so don't take to much offence when you see a legendary bands pass by. There all good at this point.

I don't take offense to any of the choices, I just occassionally disagree with assessments. Its been very enjoyable and a learning experience so kudos to a well crafted and thoughtful thread.

I'm not much into melodic hardcore but I did enjoy Death by Stereo when they opened for the Aquabats a few years back.

William_the_Bloody · 03-16-2013, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Newkie

You shoulda stuck to your guns William! Although I would say they should have been higher, I always get the feeling I never "got" Bad Brains. Can't fault their influence or impact, I just never liked them that massively.

Well this was always meant to be a democratic thread. It doesn't bother me to reassess a band if enough people make a clamour, however I will be less likely to do that now, only because every band left is pretty damn good.

As for Bad Brains, I will primarily be reviewing their latter day reggae/dub work. I know this is a hardcore thread, but I like to take into account a bands whole repertoire

William_the_Bloody · 03-16-2013, 11:53 PM

47. D.R.I. ,Genre (Crossover thrash/Thrashcore) Texas USA era, 80's &

Reagan Youth Genre (Punk Rock/NYHC) New York USA, era 80's

My apologies on the delay, I got waylaid by powers beyond my control. Anyways...

Not many bands can claim to be the godfathers of a musical genre let alone two, but DRI did just that, spearheading thrashcore during their early career & then pioneering crossover thrash with the legendary album the Crossover.

I confess I've never really been a big DRI fan, but I defiantly respect what they did.

Suit and tie guy

Tear it Down

No sense

Reagan Youth

A lot of punk rock from the 1980's was oppossed to Ronald Reagan's republican policies, so hence the mock name Reagan Youth.

Reagan Youth

Degenerated

Anytown

**Janszoon** · 03-17-2013, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

47. D.R.I. ,Genre (Crossover thrash/Thrashcore) Texas USA era, 80's

My apologies on the delay, I got waylaid by powers beyond my control. Anyways...

Not many bands can claim to be the godfathers of a musical genre let alone two, but DRI did just that, spearheading thrashcore during their early career & then pioneering crossover thrash with the legendary album the Crossover.

I confess I've never really been a big DRI fan, but I defiantly respect what they did.

I like DRI, but I have to admit Kurt Brecht is the real weak link for me. He's a terrible vocalist and has written some of the most embarrassingly bad lyrics I've ever heard in my life. Aside from that they're good though. I just wish they would have tossed his ass for someone better thirty years ago.

William_the_Bloody · 03-17-2013, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I like DRI, but I have to admit Kurt Brecht is the real weak link for me. He's a terrible vocalist and has written some of the most embarrassingly bad lyrics I've ever heard in my life. Aside from that they're good though. I just wish they would have tossed his ass for someone better thirty years ago.

Ditto, you nailed it on the head, that's why I'm not a big Municipal Waste fan either, their vocalist sounds DRI inspired.

William_the_Bloody · 03-17-2013, 10:35 AM

46. Disrupt ,Genre (Crust Punk) Massachusetts USA era, 90's &

Nausea Genre (Crust Punk) New York USA, era 80's 90's

By the late 80's early 90's the influence of British crust began to wash up on the eastern seaboard of the United States. Here is one the pioneers of American crust punk & my personal favourites of that era, even if their best effort was a Conflict song.

From Protest To Resistance

A LIFE'S A LIFE

Religion is a Fraud

Nausea

The other big US crust band popular during the early 90's, I'm sure there are others.

Cybergod

Clutches

William_the_Bloody · 03-17-2013, 09:20 PM

45. Pennywise ,Genre (Melodic Hardcore) California USA era, 90's present

Unsane Genre (Post Hardcore) New York, USA, era, 90's/Present

One of the big heavyweights of melodic hardcore. I really like Pennywise, they have some great songs, but like a lot of melodic hardcore bands, they also tend to have a lot of songs that sound a little generically similar to one another.

**** Authority

Society

Bro hymn

Unsane

So I was originally going to pair Pennywise up with a second tier melodic hardcore band like say Down By Law, which I might still add, but Post Hardcore was such a BIG part of the 90's, I'm trying to add more, and in the process I'm developing a new found appreciation for it...it's a work in progress.

Alleged

Against the Grain

Scrape

Newkie · 03-18-2013, 07:10 AM

Woo, Pennywise, woo. They always remind me of my pathetic attempts to skateboard but I still have time for them. I agree that a lot of their songs are just "plain" and it could lead you listening to a whole album and struggling to identify more than 3/4 songs from one album, and in a sense they remind me of Bad Religion. Still going, and Reason to Belive from a few years back was steady enough, but I don't expect anything more from them now.

Bro Hymn though, still love that one.

William_the_Bloody · 03-18-2013, 10:01 PM

44. S.O.D. ,Genre (Crossover thrash/NYHC) New York USA era, 80's &

Stars & Stripes, Genre (Oi!/Punk Rock) Massachusettes USA era 80's

S.O.D.:

A side project featuring members of Anthrax and Billy Milano. The original album is now considered one of the top grossing underground records of all time, and of course, one of the most controversial for its rather...how shall I say...strong approach to cultural assimilation. Anyways I do think there is something a little darker going on in the song SEOD than fans would like to admit, but I can't deny that the album itself is musically brilliant, so... I'll leave it at that.

Kill Yourself

Speak English or Die

What's That Noise?

Stars & Stripes

Moving things around as I thought this would be a good place for this band, as they are both somewhat right wing & military themed, though the former is a parody in bad taste, while the latter is more positive. They also sadly feature lead singers who are pebbleheads, though the latter is less so than the former. Both also have a cult following, originally releasing only one album each, and finally on musical merit alone....they are both really really good!

So Stars & Stripes, a patriotic sideproject started by the lead singer of Boston hardcore act Slapshot.

Shaved for battle

The Power and the Glory

No Where

Slapshot Genre (Hardcore) Massachusettes, era 80's/90's

what's at stake

Negative FX Genre (Hardcore) Massachusettes, era 80's

Mind Control

03-16-2013, 11:53 PM	#314 (permalink)
William_the_Bloody Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sunnydale Cemetary Posts: 2,093	47. D.R.I. ,Genre (Crossover thrash/Thrashcore) Texas USA era, 80's & Reagan Youth Genre (Punk Rock/NYHC) New York USA, era 80's My apologies on the delay, I got waylaid by powers beyond my control. Anyways... Not many bands can claim to be the godfathers of a musical genre let alone two, but DRI did just that, spearheading thrashcore during their early career & then pioneering crossover thrash with the legendary album the Crossover. I confess I've never really been a big DRI fan, but I defiantly respect what they did. Suit and tie guy Tear it Down No sense Reagan Youth A lot of punk rock from the 1980's was oppossed to Ronald Reagan's republican policies, so hence the mock name Reagan Youth. Reagan Youth Degenerated Anytown Last edited by William_the_Bloody; 07-17-2013 at 12:29 AM.

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William_the_Bloody Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sunnydale Cemetary Posts: 2,093	46. Disrupt ,Genre (Crust Punk) Massachusetts USA era, 90's & Nausea Genre (Crust Punk) New York USA, era 80's 90's By the late 80's early 90's the influence of British crust began to wash up on the eastern seaboard of the United States. Here is one the pioneers of American crust punk & my personal favourites of that era, even if their best effort was a Conflict song. From Protest To Resistance A LIFE'S A LIFE Religion is a Fraud Nausea The other big US crust band popular during the early 90's, I'm sure there are others. Cybergod Clutches Last edited by William_the_Bloody; 07-17-2013 at 12:42 AM.

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William_the_Bloody Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sunnydale Cemetary Posts: 2,093	45. Pennywise ,Genre (Melodic Hardcore) California USA era, 90's present Unsane Genre (Post Hardcore) New York, USA, era, 90's/Present One of the big heavyweights of melodic hardcore. I really like Pennywise, they have some great songs, but like a lot of melodic hardcore bands, they also tend to have a lot of songs that sound a little generically similar to one another. ** Authority Society Bro hymn Unsane** So I was originally going to pair Pennywise up with a second tier melodic hardcore band like say Down By Law, which I might still add, but Post Hardcore was such a BIG part of the 90's, I'm trying to add more, and in the process I'm developing a new found appreciation for it...it's a work in progress. Alleged Against the Grain Scrape Last edited by William_the_Bloody; 07-11-2013 at 09:33 PM.

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William_the_Bloody Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sunnydale Cemetary Posts: 2,093	44. S.O.D. ,Genre (Crossover thrash/NYHC) New York USA era, 80's & Stars & Stripes, Genre (Oi!/Punk Rock) Massachusettes USA era 80's S.O.D.: A side project featuring members of Anthrax and Billy Milano. The original album is now considered one of the top grossing underground records of all time, and of course, one of the most controversial for its rather...how shall I say...strong approach to cultural assimilation. Anyways I do think there is something a little darker going on in the song SEOD than fans would like to admit, but I can't deny that the album itself is musically brilliant, so... I'll leave it at that. Kill Yourself Speak English or Die What's That Noise? Stars & Stripes Moving things around as I thought this would be a good place for this band, as they are both somewhat right wing & military themed, though the former is a parody in bad taste, while the latter is more positive. They also sadly feature lead singers who are pebbleheads, though the latter is less so than the former. Both also have a cult following, originally releasing only one album each, and finally on musical merit alone....they are both really really good! So Stars & Stripes, a patriotic sideproject started by the lead singer of Boston hardcore act Slapshot. Shaved for battle The Power and the Glory No Where Slapshot Genre (Hardcore) Massachusettes, era 80's/90's what's at stake Negative FX Genre (Hardcore) Massachusettes, era 80's Mind Control Last edited by William_the_Bloody; 07-17-2013 at 12:22 AM.

03-15-2013, 12:01 PM	#311 (permalink)
Newkie Boozy Lad Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Newport, South Wales Posts: 482	You shoulda stuck to your guns William! Although I would say they should have been higher, I always get the feeling I never "got" Bad Brains. Can't fault their influence or impact, I just never liked them that massively.

03-18-2013, 07:10 AM	#319 (permalink)
Newkie Boozy Lad Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Newport, South Wales Posts: 482	Woo, Pennywise, woo. They always remind me of my pathetic attempts to skateboard but I still have time for them. I agree that a lot of their songs are just "plain" and it could lead you listening to a whole album and struggling to identify more than 3/4 songs from one album, and in a sense they remind me of Bad Religion. Still going, and Reason to Belive from a few years back was steady enough, but I don't expect anything more from them now. Bro Hymn though, still love that one.