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Janszoon 04-01-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1302680)
I had no idea he was in the movie Clue, mind you I have never seen it either. Anyways I love Fear to guys, one of my all time favs.

It's a pretty good movie actually, with a great cast. Well worth a peek.

William_the_Bloody 04-01-2013 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1302775)
It's a pretty good movie actually, with a great cast. Well worth a peek.

I shall check it out, I also discovered yesterday that Lee Ving is in the 1980s epic Flashdance!!!

Janszoon 04-01-2013 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1302993)
I shall check it out, I also discovered yesterday that Lee Ving is in the 1980s epic Flashdance!!!

Haha, now I'm going to have to check that out.

William_the_Bloody 04-01-2013 10:49 PM

26. Txhe Ofxfspxrinxg, Genre (Melodic Hardcore) California USA era, 90's/00's

So I mentioned that I would be taking down some of the big commercial acts to put something more underground up. I think what I will do is keep bands like the Offspring on the list, but add their songs below, as pretty much everyone on the planet knows who they are.

There is of course a lot of animosity directed at the Offspring for making punk rock safe for the mainstream, so it should be noted that before the Epitaph craze, skate punk was a lot more obnoxious & rooted closer to thrashcore & crossover thrash. To my recollection, it mostly consisted of obscure bands playing fast thrash songs Here are some modern bands that have kept the tradition alive.

Set to Destroy, Genre (Crossover Thrash/Thrashcore/Skate punk) California USA, modern

Set to Destroy



Let's Skate to Hell




Bones Brigade ,Genre (Crossover Thrash/Thrashcore/Skate punk)Massachusetts USA era, 00's/modern

Evil Dead



Skate or Die



The Offspring

Self Esteem



The Kids Aren't Alright



Come Out and Play


Paul Smeenus 04-01-2013 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1302993)
I shall check it out, I also discovered yesterday that Lee Ving is in the 1980s epic Flashdance!!!



Lee Ving - IMDb

William_the_Bloody 04-12-2013 07:52 PM

25. Rage Against the Machine, Genre (Rapcore/funk hardcore) era, 90's &

Deez Nuts Genre (Rapcore) Australia, modern

Ah back from the grave. I was going to pull Rage Against the Machine for some pioneers of blackened crust, but to be honest, they're not that good, so no more obscure stuff unless I revamp the list. Anyways...

Rage Against the Machine has been labelled as "alternative metal" by the mainstream press, but I would argue that their influence is largely hardcore. Zack de la Rocha of course is remembered for fronting the hardcore punk act Inside Out, where as Morella comes from a more contemporary rock background, but was also influenced by punk to an extent, so I hear a lot of funk & I hear a lot punk, but...I'm not too sure where the metal comes in???

No Shelter



The Ghost of Tom Joad



Know Your Enemy



Inside Out - Redemption



Deez Nuts:

I don't have a lot of rapcore on here, and I'm not overly big on these guys, but they have some decent tunes, so I guess this is as a good spot as any.

Band Of Brothers



I HUSTLE EVERYDAY


Newkie 04-13-2013 12:17 PM

Well I didn't expect to see these guys on here. Fair shout though, alt metal is a pretty vague term so I see your point. I would just go for funk metal to be honest, although Zach is obviously pretty punk orientated, think Morello was a producer on a few punk albums as well, not sure though.

William_the_Bloody 04-13-2013 06:05 PM

There has been a lot of bands connected to the hardcore scene in one way or another over the decades that have been plucked by the majors and repackaged as something else.

Fair enough for me, I prefer the genre to stay undergound, as soon as something goes mainstream you get all sorts of fakes and posers coming in and playing sell out music.

William_the_Bloody 04-13-2013 06:12 PM

24. Black Flag ,Genre (Hardcore) California USA era 70's/80's &

TSOL Genre (Post Punk/Hardcore/Glam Metal) California USA era, 80's

If I were asked to pick a band that best described the sound of American hardcore in the 80's, I would pick Black Flag. Few punk bands reached their level of success or popularity in the American underground, but I have my grievances.

The further I go down this list, the harder it becomes to separate great musical compositions from personal preference. In short, musical taste is subjective, and guitarist Greg Ginn flirted to much with jazz and off tempo guitar riffs for my liking. While it worked for one band topping this list, I prefer my Black Flag served straight up, Drinking & Driving ect.

(PS: It's about time someone remastered their stuff, the sound quality could use a boost)

My War



Drinking and Driving



Slip it in



TSOL

TSOL was one of those oversights that really should have been on the list. I must apologize to fans of old school American punk that a lot of their favourite bands didn't originally get put on.

When I set out to do this list, I wanted to try balance US & UK bands somewhat equally, the problem I found was that American punk never really hit the death throlls, while in England, it was virtually swept away for an entire decade during the 90's. So there is more USA bands on here than any other country, but also a lot of diversity in respects to genres and the timeline.

As for TSOL, started out hardcore, then went post punk & then sold out with a horrible glam metal album, or as one of my favourite you tube quotes go "Where glam metal fails, punk rock prevails."

Flowers By The Door



No Time



Nothing for you


William_the_Bloody 04-14-2013 10:54 AM

23. Dayglo Abortions, Genre (Hardcore/Crossover Thrash) British Columbia Canada era, 80's/90's &

Agent Orange Genre (Surf Punk/Punk Rock) California, USA, era 80's/90's

Before the internet became a widespread consumer item, the popularity of a hardcore band was often determined by their geographical location, and few punk bands were as popular as the Dayglo Abortions in my country.

Largely remembered for having their record tied up on obscenity charges, & having a track on Napalm Death's Leaders not Followers, the Dayglo Abortions pumped out obnoxious guitar ripping songs like **** My **** Stinks & Hide the Hamster.

**** My **** Stinks



proud to be a canadian



Drugged and Driving



Agent Orange

California surf punk band, fondly remembered for their version of Metallica's Seek & Destroy

seek & destroy



pipeline



Bloodstains



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