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Codeblind 08-17-2013 10:41 PM


The ****s Live Chicago Garage Rock - YouTube

Freebase Dali 08-17-2013 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Codeblind (Post 1358453)

Let me preface this by saying How To Clean Everything is my absolute favorite album by Propagandhi.

But...
That album was '90s pop punk. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but it's not really serving a purpose in this thread. But kudos for mentioning it, because it strokes my own ego in that I love it.

Codeblind 08-17-2013 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1358465)
Let me preface this by saying How To Clean Everything is my absolute favorite album by Propagandhi.

But...
That album was '90s pop punk. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but it's not really serving a purpose in this thread. But kudos for mentioning it, because it strokes my own ego in that I love it.

You may be right. I first got into punk in the early '80s. It may even be true that there's no punk today, but perhaps that's because punk, like rock and roll, is kind of old school and not exactly relevant to today's zeitgeist. Let me see if I can find a more contemporary corollary.

Codeblind 08-17-2013 11:25 PM


Parts & Labor - Fractured Skies - YouTube

Codeblind 08-17-2013 11:28 PM


Banned Books - Dream Castle - YouTube

Freebase Dali 08-17-2013 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Codeblind (Post 1358476)

Great band in my opinion, but they're not something I would consider "punk". Maybe it's because I'm biased, I dunno. But when there are people out there that consider Paramore to be Punk, we have to draw a line somewhere.

Codeblind 08-17-2013 11:59 PM

That's part of my point. Punk wasn't something that was supposed to continue on indefinitely. Arguably the worst thing that could happen to punk is for music to keep on being punk in the same recognizable form as it took in the late '70s and early '80s or even '90s. Punk was essentially a spirit of defiance and creativity that often had a certain sound owing to the equipment and influences of the time. To continue on in that vein for decades upon decades is against the very spirit of the thing. The problem isn't so much that there is no punk today, but that there is in fact too much punk lingering around long after punk itself has ceased to be a meaningful form of rebellion. In order to find today's punk music, you have to stop listening for it in punk music.

bob. 08-18-2013 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Codeblind (Post 1358476)

wow...this is by far one of the best things i've heard in a while

Lord Larehip 08-18-2013 11:46 AM

So where do we go from here?
Which is the way that's clear?

Zer0 08-18-2013 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Larehip (Post 1355455)
Green Day isn't even punk--get real. Grunge blew donkey cock. I don't know what the crap is they call punk today. There is no punk today. Don't make me laugh til I cry.

The reason why you think punk is dead today is because you're not looking beyond the first world. Look at punk in China and the Taqwacore bands in the Middle East instead, these are places where the youth actually have reasons to form punk bands. The reason why punk is more or less dead in countries like the UK and the USA is because there's no real reason for it to be alive.


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