Opinions on GG Allin
 

He's not all THAT bad.

pretty much just an idiot and a loser

Nah he was boring and lame

I can stomach some of his Jabbers songs. Dude was certified though and a real douche-bucket.

He's where he belongs

He was definitely not boring

GG made some good music. I prefer Carnival of Excess with The Criminal Quartet to any of his punk records, though.

yea he was pretty much the opposite of boring lol

i had read about him years ago quite extensively so basically him and all of his fans or followers or whatever are complete losers. and even worse the kind that revels in their loser lifestyle instead of improvin themselves

Saw him at Blondie's in Detroit back in the early 90s. After covering himself with his diarrhea and spitting it at people (I was standing behind some skinheads who were hocking loogies on him while he was shoving his s-hit in his mouth and he sprayed it at them and they ducked and I ducked and a girl behind me caught some right on her cheek while I crawled away towards the bar), he picked up metal barstools and would spin around several times and wing them directly at the audience members as hard as he could who were only standing maybe 5 feet away--really trying to hurt somebody. He also pissed or tried to piss on people and tried to French girls with his mouth full of ****. Then he'd laugh when they ran off screaming and then he'd spit it at some unsuspecting person.

He came running at people in front of me like he was going to hurl himself on them and people cleared out so fast that I was thrown backwards so fast that I'd would have been crushed against the bar. Luckily, someone left the gate up that you have to lift to get behind the bar. I flew right through it backwards and smashed to a pile of bottles and somehow didn't get hurt too badly. If that gate had been down, I'd have been f-ucking killed.

Finally, someone grabbed a folding chair and whacked him so hard with it that Allin was knocked out. The show lasted a whopping 20 minutes or so. I recently spoke with the guy who knocked him out on FB. There was a discussion of Allin and this guy mentioned being at Blondies and knocking Allin out cold. I told him I was at that show and saw him do it. He said that Allin then got involved with this girl he knew--I think he said her name was Leslie--and Allin ended up beating her up badly and then deliberately burned her. I don't know how badly and I didn't ask. He went to jail over it for a while and did some time in a psycho ward--in Ann Arbor, I think--and when he got out, he started stalking this Leslie who was now terrified of him. This guy and some of his buddies then caught up with Allin and persuaded him in no uncertain terms to accept that it would be in his best interest to leave the state immediately, which he did.

This guy HATES G.G. Allin. "Everytime I hear these younger kids talking about how cool he was, I think of what he did to Leslie." I never knew Allin and didn't want to because everybody I knew that actually did know him, hated him and told me to have nothing to do with him because he was just bad news and mentally ill to boot. Only one guy I knew in California knew and liked him but I think it was only because he probably never got to know him that well.

For a while, Allin was soliciting suggestions about how to off himself. I sent him a note saying he should do it at the Palladium in New York while they were filing Club MTV (then was when MTV had something to do with musc--you young 'uns wouldn't understand). I don't know of he ever got my note or not but he did off himself in New York from what I hear so maybe he was going to take me up on it.

now I'm bored

engine doesnt really make sense but that was a great story

pretty much how i envisioned him from all ive read. a psycho junkie loser. i guess his appeal was bein extreme maybe to make up for attention he didnt get as a kid

And that's the most important thing, really. Look at Beatles fans and Green Day fans, they're always winners who are constantly improving themselves in their daily lives, which they probably owe to listening to songs like "Octopus Garden", "Basket Case" and "When I Come Around".

Yeah k I so value ur guys' opinions!!1!!! rly making me re-evaluate my own

not

you like ppl who revel in their loser lives? to each their own i guess


:D


hey op, did you post this thread after seein that gg allin video on reddit the other day?? just wonderin

Allin's personal philosophy summed up in two words:


GG Allin - Antisocial Masturbator - YouTube

hah, okay. Good song, you win this round (this really should be a game)





Anyway, on topic. It's interesting that the OP is the driving force behind the legend of Allin's planned suicide. We've got a punk rock celebrity here, guys.

I always thought this Springer appearance was pretty fun. GG knew how to upset people, that's for sure.

funny enough my moustache naturally grows like gg allins

I think Darby Crash did the planned suicide better

but his story never fails to make me laugh

what a fuck up

i agree....GG said he would off himself on stage and take audience members with him......which in many ways would be a blessing for all of us.....he even failed in that

kind of agree with some of the stuff he says in that interview


i dated that chick in high school.....i swear

"I've had sex on stage with men, women, and animals, and everything in between."

a real mans man

Your sarcasm detector appears to be broken.



All you need to know about Jesus Christ Allin.

this should actually make the Politically Correct camp happy. Not many people even acknowledged the "in-between" back then, let alone had public sex with them.

To shed some light on the early days...

At first, during the Jabbers era as well as the Early 80's, he was just your usual high shock high energy rocker that was maybe a little too high shock without hinting much at the creepiness that happened later if one was not looking too much. His first album was released through David Peel's Orange Records and in 1981, he even recorded with Wayne Kramer and Dennis "Machine Gun" Thompson. Continuing on with a split record with Artless (Mykel Board's band I think), it seemed like that part was seriously over and done with after trying to push his act into being vile even more with fans egging him on and a Talk Show circuit that offered him his biggest platform.


This is pretty good! Jabbers-era GG Chapter 2 with The MC2 - The Motor City Bad Boys!

As you can tell, the fact that his music was catchy and shock oriented Pop Punk in a time when things were turning Hardcore made songs like this fall by the wayside. Hardly anyone noticed I think. Kind of gives more support to the "attention seeking violent geek egged on by fans" opinions. He made his choice...

The first clip is a mix of footage, some of the very early days that's a compare and contrast in my view.





As you can tell, it was NOT The MC5, but MC2.

I'm sure that a lot of modern interest was sparked on by the Hated Documentary with a lot of fans liking him from a very safe distance. Despite having musically solid first and final albums, the later of which I can see some fans ranking it one of his better albums next to his early work, as well as a few good songs here and there, I have a limit on my interest in his music and his infamy.

To end this on a humorous note: I bought the Documentary used in a DVD store's going out of business sale in the Wrestling section!

http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice...s/20050228.gif

I was gonna try and write something witty but then I remembered this comic and got lazy. Pretty much sums up my opinion of him and his fans.

^ lol yes I totally forgot about that one! Parfait

Chad from Cky is a fan of GG Allin.

I asked a friend who knew GG and he said GG was more like a professional wrestler than anything else.

I don't believe him by the way, but he knew him well enough to be asked to be in his band.

guy's outrageous

It's far too late to speculate, but I seriously can't help it to say an opinion in a place like this.

I would say that if it were not for the early days, when he was meeting musicians like David Peel and a couple of the MC5, opening the Underground Music Scene door to him, he possibly would have been a Wrestler - the days of being a professional Circus Freak being long gone for the most part. He used the audience like a challenger in Wrestling, fed off of their goading and criticism as well as the audience's worship (sadly, there were those who did...). The early days fed his Rock and Roll interests, sparking him into going that route. Sadly, he decided to become his infamy instead of using it as just an act.

My opinion on GG Allin: He had a very good philosophy.

He's one of those guys whom I love purely because of the fact of how ****ing ridiculous and outlandish he was in everything he said and did. He didn't have a stage persona, he was so ****ing real. Do I believe that he's God? No, but my aunt sure did! (Yes, she's still alive and not in a rehab center, she lives across town from me). So yeah, I respect him as an *******, not as a musician because obviously that was not his biggest priority.

When I tell people I like punk and their first response is "I like punk too, especially GG Allin," I usually use that as a barometer to stay the hell away from them, especially at a show. Maybe I'm being unfair and judgmental, but 99% of those people turn out to be the asshole at a show.

I'd say it's more like 92%.

Amazeballs, thats my opinon...Professional and otherwise...

I think he was pretty funny.

GG Allin was the worst person in music and I don't understand how he could have any fans after literally ****ting on his own audience, although his debut does have its moments I suppose.