True Punk Then? (rock, Muse, goth, record companies, artists)

Urban Hat€monger ? · 07-18-2005, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtistInTheAmbulance

Cause you rarely hear the term "POLKA POSEUR"..

We should

It has a nice ring to it

ArtistInTheAmbulance · 07-18-2005, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

We should

It has a nice ring to it

Then it is done. You can be MB's new Polka Poseur. Congrats

phoenixflames · 07-18-2005, 12:29 PM

Well, not that I'm all knowing about the subject, but punk seems to be really clickish and like some exclusive club. You have to fit into all the rules, otherwise you are a poser (or however people declare it spelled). Polka has no such rules, at least not to my knowledge.

All_Nite_Dinah · 07-18-2005, 12:08 PM

That wasnt a polka it was a waltz

Urban Hat€monger ? · 07-18-2005, 12:31 PM

KaRl AnD tHe CoUnTrY dUtChMeN aRe HaRdCoRe

Fenixpunk · 07-18-2005, 02:22 PM

theres just as many elitist in punk rock as in any other genre. Basically a bunch of people who think that their way is the true way and are oblivious to any sort of changes that may be happening around them in their own scene.

Trauma · 07-18-2005, 08:55 PM

And the people who put safety pins on their American Eagle outfits and dye their mohawks blue don't fit into that elitist click I would say.
I would say most of the older punks who have their own views on things and fit into this 'elitist click' you speak of are cooler in my mind for ignoring the changing times.
All this pop-punk and whatnot where others that have no free thinking beliefs adapt the punk sound is destroying the punk social culture.
And I believe that this is how older punks see things.
You have some experience in this field Fenixpunk.
Is my statement wrong?

~~mArk~~ · 07-19-2005, 09:35 AM

trying to define punk....*checks dictionary* http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=punk

hmmm very....helpful....anyone can say anything they like on the matter, you dont have to accept it, nor do they have to accept your opinions, im not even gonna begin to try and define punk, especially seen as the word already has so many definitions....like Chinese incense lol

i guess if you are punk, you arent gonna care when someone tells you you arent....

- x .R.o.c.k tunezZ · 07-21-2005, 11:15 AM

Well then..hmm..i guess its hard to find the "true" meaning of punk..or wat bands are "truly" punk. Ne-who thats all i have to day about it!: )lol
<3 Much love *!*!

SATCHMO · 07-19-2005, 09:56 AM

I can't believe I'm responding to this, but to me punk is more a matter of personal integrity than music. there have been a lot of artists/ people who have nothing to do with punk music who's lives and personal ethics have made them punk rock. When I think of the original punk music I think of people like Johnny Cash, Waylon Jennings, Charles Mingus...all people who lived by their own muse and defied the conventional standard. people who weren't afraid to hurl rocks into the face of the beast. There is a particular sound asociated with punk music, but that same sound is being used by corporate record companies to sell records to naive children looking for an excuse to rebel. Is it any wonder that kids come on here with a misconstrued notion of what punk is? There being spoon fed garbage music everyday and being told that its there vehicle of personal expression and individuality.

07-18-2005, 12:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
phoenixflames Something That You're Not Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cold And All Alone Posts: 476	Well, not that I'm all knowing about the subject, but punk seems to be really clickish and like some exclusive club. You have to fit into all the rules, otherwise you are a poser (or however people declare it spelled). Polka has no such rules, at least not to my knowledge. __________________ ----------- I'm the lead singer and bass player for the band The Ascent (And Decline) Of Terrion. Yay for me... We're from Ohio. Yay for us... www.theascentofterrion.com Be our friend on MySpace

07-18-2005, 12:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
All_Nite_Dinah Not Impressed Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 734	That wasnt a polka it was a waltz __________________ If I cant dance I dont want to be part of your revolution. DEATH TO FALSE DUDES!

07-18-2005, 12:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,626	KaRl AnD tHe CoUnTrY dUtChMeN aRe HaRdCoRe __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

07-18-2005, 02:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
Fenixpunk The Erroneous Hoodlum Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: West Side Phoenix Posts: 2,059	theres just as many elitist in punk rock as in any other genre. Basically a bunch of people who think that their way is the true way and are oblivious to any sort of changes that may be happening around them in their own scene. __________________ This message has been approved by Shawn Erroneous - The Declaimed

07-18-2005, 08:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
Trauma snickers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: detroit Posts: 2,183	And the people who put safety pins on their American Eagle outfits and dye their mohawks blue don't fit into that elitist click I would say. I would say most of the older punks who have their own views on things and fit into this 'elitist click' you speak of are cooler in my mind for ignoring the changing times. All this pop-punk and whatnot where others that have no free thinking beliefs adapt the punk sound is destroying the punk social culture. And I believe that this is how older punks see things. You have some experience in this field Fenixpunk. Is my statement wrong? __________________ A mi no me importa nada Para mi la vida es un sueño

07-19-2005, 09:35 AM	#8 (permalink)
~~mArk~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: newcastle Posts: 33	trying to define punk....checks dictionary http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=punk hmmm very....helpful....anyone can say anything they like on the matter, you dont have to accept it, nor do they have to accept your opinions, im not even gonna begin to try and define punk, especially seen as the word already has so many definitions....like Chinese incense lol i guess if you are punk, you arent gonna care when someone tells you you arent....

07-21-2005, 11:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
- x .R.o.c.k tunezZ Groupie Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Newfoundland...YES it roxs here!: )...and no...im not a baymen GOD! lol Posts: 23	P.u.n.k ! :o Well then..hmm..i guess its hard to find the "true" meaning of punk..or wat bands are "truly" punk. Ne-who thats all i have to day about it!: )lol <3 Much love !! __________________ - . * The girl at the Rock Show .. <3

07-19-2005, 09:56 AM	#10 (permalink)
SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,847	I can't believe I'm responding to this, but to me punk is more a matter of personal integrity than music. there have been a lot of artists/ people who have nothing to do with punk music who's lives and personal ethics have made them punk rock. When I think of the original punk music I think of people like Johnny Cash, Waylon Jennings, Charles Mingus...all people who lived by their own muse and defied the conventional standard. people who weren't afraid to hurl rocks into the face of the beast. There is a particular sound asociated with punk music, but that same sound is being used by corporate record companies to sell records to naive children looking for an excuse to rebel. Is it any wonder that kids come on here with a misconstrued notion of what punk is? There being spoon fed garbage music everyday and being told that its there vehicle of personal expression and individuality.

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