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Frownland 07-13-2018 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1974224)
The fact that it's considered kind of weird if you don't kiss the asses of those bands is exactly what's so annoying about them. I don't have to think they made good music and I don't. It's pretty uncontroversial if you don't like all sorts of bands, but the moment you don't bow down before the altar of the Beatles, you get those "Bodysnatchers" stares.
Shouldn't you separate the music from the fanbase though?

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Originally Posted by rubber soul (Post 1974226)
It isn't just the Beatles. Chula takes a lot of grief here because he happens to be a Zeppelin fan boy. Someone could come on here extolling the virtues of the Who and he'll probably get booed off the stage. I'm amazed Pink Floyd hasn't been trashed here given their legendary status.
#sanctimoniousbanter

I love at least a few albums from all of those artists. Mondo posts about The Who. We boo people off of the stage for being boring schmucks.

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1974228)
Pink Floyd are being trashed regularly.

Everyone loves Black Sabbath, though. Literally everybody. So it might not just be about being against popular stuff. Maybe, just maybe, Beatles, Zep and PF do kinda suck or at least are quite a bit overrated.
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rubber soul 07-13-2018 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1974229)
Even grumpy old me. I mean, sure, I don't rank Sabbath albums like most would and I don't listen to them much, but I've still got a handful on my shelf.

Zep, Beatles, Floyd... they're all quite old bands by now. A lot has happened in music since and people of my age and younger didn't grow up with them like the 60's generation did. Disregarding historical context (which I always insist on doing), I can't really say that any of them seem that special to me. Especially the Beatles. Pink Floyd might have a few albums I could see myself getting into with time. Some of their earlier stuff was pretty interesting and very atmospheric.
Some of it I'm sure is generational. My generation looked down on Elvis Presley even when he died.

But there is a historical context to all these artists and some that predate even Presley. If it wasn't for Elvis, the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, et al (and I guess we should also add Bob Dylan to the mix), we probably wouldn't be here talking about the bands we talk about today. Maybe this would just be a Sinatra fanboy forum.

MicShazam 07-13-2018 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1974231)
Shouldn't you separate the music from the fanbase though?
Absolutely, but it's probably a little bit hard at times with bands that have huge and obnoxious fanbases.

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Originally Posted by rubber soul (Post 1974232)
Some of it I'm sure is generational. My generation looked down on Elvis Presley even when he died.

But there is a historical context to all these artists and some that predate even Presley. If it wasn't for Elvis, the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, et al (and I guess we should also add Bob Dylan to the mix), we probably wouldn't be here talking about the bands we talk about today. Maybe this would just be a Sinatra fanboy forum.
There is a historical context of course, but what I'm arguing is that that should not play into my view of a given band. If anything, I'd say I'm being very, very fair by listening to the Beatles as if they were just a bunch of nobodies. Doesn't make them sound any better or worse that they played a part in rock and pop music history.

I'm just cutting the hype out of the equation - letting my ears judge them rather than any weird feeling that I "should" like them because they're "important" or whatever. It's out of respect to the music.

grindy 07-13-2018 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1974229)
Even grumpy old me. I mean, sure, I don't rank Sabbath albums like most would and I don't listen to them much, but I've still got a handful on my shelf.

Zep, Beatles, Floyd... they're all quite old bands by now. A lot has happened in music since and people of my age and younger didn't grow up with them like the 60's generation did. Disregarding historical context (which I always insist on doing), I can't really say that any of them seem that special to me. Especially the Beatles. Pink Floyd might have a few albums I could see myself getting into with time. Some of their earlier stuff was pretty interesting and very atmospheric.
Who cares about bands being old or not? There's tons of stuff from the sixties that still sounds as mind-blowing as ever.

Blank. 07-13-2018 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by rubber soul (Post 1974226)
It isn't just the Beatles. Chula takes a lot of grief here because he happens to be a Zeppelin fan boy. Someone could come on here extolling the virtues of the Who and he'll probably get booed off the stage. I'm amazed Pink Floyd hasn't been trashed here given their legendary status.

Anyway, it doesn't matter if it's the Beatles or Led Zeppelin or the Bonzo Doo Dah Dog Band. If they're good, they're good. Popularity doesn't weigh into it. At least not to me.
I disagree. Chula doesn't get **** for being a Fanboy, he gets **** for not shutting up about it.

I'm a Fanboy of the following members of the official MB shitlist, Slipknot, Tool, and Nu Metal in general. No one gives me **** bout it really. Why? Cause I don't bring it up constantly.

Frownland 07-13-2018 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by rubber soul (Post 1974232)
Maybe this would just be a Sinatra fanboy forum.
We would be ****ting on Sinatra, keep up with your own narrative.

The Batlord 07-13-2018 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by rubber soul (Post 1974226)
It isn't just the Beatles. Chula takes a lot of grief here because he happens to be a Zeppelin fan boy. Someone could come on here extolling the virtues of the Who and he'll probably get booed off the stage. I'm amazed Pink Floyd hasn't been trashed here given their legendary status.

Anyway, it doesn't matter if it's the Beatles or Led Zeppelin or the Bonzo Doo Dah Dog Band. If they're good, they're good. Popularity doesn't weigh into it. At least not to me.
Plenty of people on this site ride all of those bands' dicks. You're imagining things. We're just not Rolling Stone Magazine.

grindy 07-13-2018 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Blank. (Post 1974269)
I disagree. Chula doesn't get **** for being a Fanboy, he gets **** for not shutting up about it.

I'm a Fanboy of the following members of the official MB shitlist, Slipknot, Tool, and Nu Metal in general. No one gives me **** bout it really. Why? Cause I don't bring it up constantly.
But now that you have: **** you and **** those ****ty-ass bands.

Blank. 07-13-2018 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1974280)
But now that you have: **** you and **** those ****ty-ass bands.
Where you been? It was no secret.

grindy 07-13-2018 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Blank. (Post 1974285)
Where you been? It was no secret.
Oh, I've known.
Pretty sure I've already given you **** for Tool and Slipknot.
Just wanted to use the opportunity. <3


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