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Dylstew 07-13-2016 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1719766)
You posted your video here to get critiqued. It got critiqued. I'm fine.

You didn't really tell why it's so dumb, and it's rather hyperbole. At least Batlord's a funny *******.

Tristan_Geoff 07-13-2016 12:04 PM

Alright so you asked in the video and I know, so here goes.

In the late 90's, emo had split up into two directions that reflected each other. The more twinkly, indie-leaning midwest emo bands were on one side, and bands took note of that and added Jawbreaker's and Lifetime's influence, forming the first wave of emo-pop. At this point, it was compromised of bands like Saves the Day and Get Up Kids (which imo aren't bad at all). They were more pop punk leaning, but not the the point of it being too awfully whiny. Near then, bands like Thrice, Alexisonfire, and Thursday were developing their screamo-influenced, pop punk tie-in version of post-hardcore, which I also think is great. However, they had a little more angst in their sound, which was soon embraced by the likes of From First to Last, Underoath, and The Used; who then added the influence of emerging bands like Bullet for My Valentine and Killswitch Engage and took the then skate punk-centered Warped Tour by storm. This was around 2004, when NoFX's Fat Mike was having a publiized fued with the also touring Underoath. I think that would be a signifier of the turning point of it all. From there, scene culture developed and gained traction until it became stuff like Sleeping With Sirens, My Chemical Romance, blah blah blah.

So basically, Thursday-brand post-hardcore+emo-pop=dark emo-pop+melodic metalcore=modern scene culture

Key 07-13-2016 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylstew (Post 1719767)
You didn't really tell why it's so dumb, and it's rather hyperbole. At least Batlord's a funny *******.

I'm not trying to be funny. I gave my opinion.

Dylstew 07-13-2016 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1719768)
Alright so you asked in the video and I know, so here goes.

In the late 90's, emo had split up into two directions that reflected each other. The more twinkly, indie-leaning midwest emo bands were on one side, and bands took note of that and added Jawbreaker's and Lifetime's influence, forming the first wave of emo-pop. At this point, it was compromised of bands like Saves the Day and Get Up Kids (which imo aren't bad at all). They were more pop punk leaning, but not the the point of it being too awfully whiny. Near then, bands like Thrice, Alexisonfire, and Thursday were developing their screamo-influenced, pop punk tie-in version of post-hardcore, which I also think is great. However, they had a little more angst in their sound, which was soon embraced by the likes of From First to Last, Underoath, and The Used; who then added the influence of emerging bands like Bullet for My Valentine and Killswitch Engage and took the then skate punk-centered Warped Tour by storm. This was around 2004, when NoFX's Fat Mike was having a publiized fued with the also touring Underoath. I think that would be a signifier of the turning point of it all. From there, scene culture developed and gained traction until it became stuff like Sleeping With Sirens, My Chemical Romance, blah blah blah.

So basically, Thursday-brand post-hardcore+emo-pop=dark emo-pop+melodic metalcore=modern scene culture

Thanks! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1719769)
I'm not trying to be funny. I gave my opinion.

You're also quite a dick about it, come on, the dumbest? Elaborate please.

Key 07-13-2016 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylstew (Post 1719771)
You're also quite a dick about it, come on, the dumbest? Elaborate please.

Alright. It's not the smartest video i've ever seen.

Dylstew 07-13-2016 12:19 PM

As I'm insecure as ****, I'll just leave it at this:

**** off, Ki. Imma listen to some Hardcore or something.

The Batlord 07-13-2016 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylstew (Post 1719771)
You're also quite a dick about it, come on, the dumbest? Elaborate please.

He's a bored troll. Nuff said.

Key 07-13-2016 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylstew (Post 1719776)
As I'm insecure as ****, I'll just leave it at this:

**** off, Ki. Imma listen to some Hardcore or something.

lol

Dylstew 07-13-2016 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1719777)
He's a bored troll. Nuff said.

I figured.

The Batlord 07-13-2016 12:23 PM

Next video metalcore or I'm unsubscribing.


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