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View Poll Results: What is Black Flag?
Punk 41 51.25%
Hardcore 29 36.25%
Neither. It's emo/country. 2 2.50%
Good question. What IS Black Flag? mp3's please? 8 10.00%
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Old 02-27-2006, 07:05 PM   #51 (permalink)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Flag_%28band%29

Look at the genre. They leaned more towards hardcore though with their behavior and sound. So you both were somewhat right, Ethan more however. EIMP a band's genre doesn't change over time if they have stopped recording. Just because they seem hardcore today means they were hardcore back then same with punk. Would you call The Ramones Prog today because they "seem prog"?
in a sense the type of music the genre can change. look at led Zeppelin.. they were Heavy Metal of the 70's and now considered to be Rock N' Roll, classic rock. well i'm sorry but as much as you think genres can't and don't change its very possible. and it has changed in this case to. Black Flag were punk of there day.. and clearly now considered to be hardcore. I stick to my opinions and no i'm not going to admit i'm wrong when i know i'm not.. so battle it out go ahead.. you'll be just making me copy this very post over and over.. haha
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Old 02-27-2006, 07:08 PM   #52 (permalink)
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in a sense the type of music the genre can change. look at led Zeppelin.. they were Heavy Metal of the 70's and now considered to be Rock N' Roll, classic rock. well i'm sorry but as much as you think genres can't and don't change its very possible. and it has changed in this case to. Black Flag were punk of there day.. and clearly now considered to be hardcore. I stick to my opinions and no i'm not going to admit i'm wrong when i know i'm not.. so battle it out go ahead.. you'll be just making me copy this very post over and over.. haha
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Old 02-27-2006, 07:08 PM   #53 (permalink)
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o..rlly..well cuz...u....say so....i...guesss ur rght..
damn right haha..
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Old 02-27-2006, 07:43 PM   #54 (permalink)
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in a sense the type of music the genre can change. look at led Zeppelin.. they were Heavy Metal of the 70's and now considered to be Rock N' Roll, classic rock. well i'm sorry but as much as you think genres can't and don't change its very possible. and it has changed in this case to. Black Flag were punk of there day.. and clearly now considered to be hardcore. I stick to my opinions and no i'm not going to admit i'm wrong when i know i'm not.. so battle it out go ahead.. you'll be just making me copy this very post over and over.. haha
Are you kidding me?
Black Flag was a hardcore punk band. I never thought that that fact was even disputed. Lyrically, vocally, instrumentally, they were a hardcore band. Because you say they were "tru punx" doesn't mean you're right. And no, their genre didn't change over time, they were a hardcore band in the 80s, and they're a hardcore band today. It hasn't changed. Plus, who are you to tell us about whats punk, you listen to 3 Days Grace. PWND.
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Old 02-27-2006, 08:42 PM   #55 (permalink)
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there not tho.. and its not a matter of opinion either.. you go back in time and they were said to be punk.. not hardcore.. maybe today they seem hardcore.. but truely they weren't..
Hardcore and punk are practically the same thing as hardcore grew out of punk music. Most of the early bands such as Bad Brains, Middle Class etc would have considered themselves to be playing punk as that's what they were doing at the time. So you, in theory are partly right.

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Are you kidding me?
Black Flag was a hardcore punk band. I never thought that that fact was even disputed. Lyrically, vocally, instrumentally, they were a hardcore band. Because you say they were "tru punx" doesn't mean you're right. And no, their genre didn't change over time, they were a hardcore band in the 80s, and they're a hardcore band today. It hasn't changed. Plus, who are you to tell us about whats punk, you listen to 3 Days Grace. PWND.
Black Flag formed in 1976 when hardcore really wasn't a genre although bands were laying the foundation for what would later be called hardcore. Yes, I listen to alot of this early hardcore so I know what i'm talking about.
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Alright, they formed before hardcore was an official genre. But is it an official genre? It is merely a sub genre of punk. The fact that they formed before the term was coined, doesn't mean they weren't a hardcore band.

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Old 02-27-2006, 08:58 PM   #57 (permalink)
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I agree, they were a hardcore punk band but i'm just stating that they formed before the genre was common place, like many bands.
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Oh, alrighty then.
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Old 02-27-2006, 09:24 PM   #59 (permalink)
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Hardcore and punk are practically the same thing as hardcore grew out of punk music. Most of the early bands such as Bad Brains, Middle Class etc would have considered themselves to be playing punk as that's what they were doing at the time. So you, in theory are partly right.



Black Flag formed in 1976 when hardcore really wasn't a genre although bands were laying the foundation for what would later be called hardcore. Yes, I listen to alot of this early hardcore so I know what i'm talking about.
i like you.. you seem to know your stuff..
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Old 02-27-2006, 09:27 PM   #60 (permalink)
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i like you.. you seem to know your stuff..
yes he does seem to know his stuff. Which is why he's agreeing with bungalowbill and crowquill.
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