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All_Nite_Dinah 08-23-2005 11:46 AM

Another reason to hate green day
 
http://www.mtvasia.com/News/200508/04012294.html

Gee guys, pulling off your old INDIE label so you can make more cash on your re release on a major. Thats reeeeeeal punkk rock...

Fenixpunk 08-23-2005 11:59 AM

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"Lookout! made some bad business decisions and suffered in the market, and they got really behind on their royalties," Laughter said. "There's no acrimony. From Lookout!'s perspective, Green Day was way more than reasonably patient, and Lookout! got so delinquent in paying the royalties that Green Day was forced to say, 'We can't continue to float this. We need to put [these albums] somewhere where we can reliably get the royalties.'"
i cant blame them though, honestly..sounds like Lookout dropped the ball and wasnt giving the artists what they were owed. Any professional musician would of done the same.

All_Nite_Dinah 08-23-2005 12:29 PM

At the same time Green Day is making MILLIONS of dollars a year. Lookout is pretty much responsible for there success early on and the fact that they would turn around and betray there roots bugs me alot.

Fenixpunk 08-23-2005 12:49 PM

ya, i guess i look at it differently, i see it as lookout owes most of their success to greenday, more so than vice versa. I dont think greenday is screwing the company, it sounds like the company was screwing the bands. Lookout sold tons of GD albums and im sure got paid a pretty penny because of it, even bands like GD deserve their fair share of the profits produced by the music they make. almost like the DK/alternative tentacles fiasco where the dk royalties were going back into AT and not into the musicians pockets where it was supposed to go.

sleepy jack 08-23-2005 02:06 PM

I hate them ever more so.


did i post the buzzc0cks calling them posers yet article?

Fenixpunk 08-23-2005 03:19 PM

hate them or not, they deserve their royalties.

bloodsugar 08-23-2005 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenixpunk
hate them or not, they deserve their royalties.

well said.

hookers with machineguns 08-23-2005 04:42 PM

I wouldn't sleep well at night if I knew that my withdrawal bankrupted the label that got my band going. Especially if I'm sleeping with money bags as pillows. But, I guess that's why I'm not cut out for the world of business.

sleepy jack 08-23-2005 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hookers with machineguns
I wouldn't sleep well at night if I knew that my withdrawal bankrupted the label that got my band going. Especially if I'm sleeping with money bags as pillows. But, I guess that's why I'm not cut out for the world of business.

I agree with the whore with the gunz.

holdyoualways 08-23-2005 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hookers with machineguns
I wouldn't sleep well at night if I knew that my withdrawal bankrupted the label that got my band going. Especially if I'm sleeping with money bags as pillows. But, I guess that's why I'm not cut out for the world of business.

:clap:

Fenixpunk 08-24-2005 09:24 AM

if greendays withdrawl was the reason lookout went bankrupt then they (lookout) did some serious screwups with their accounting. think about it. for every album greenday sold on lookout, the band gets a small percentage of that, the record company gets a bigger percentage. there should be no reason a label shouldnt have more funds than a band they are producing. If lookout ends up going belly up over this then i say good, before they end up screwing other bands on their label that dont have the opportunity to shop around in the majors like greenday does. An alternative to greenday saying "give me our money, the money you owe us, the money we deserve" they could of said "give me your label". then everyone would be bitching and complaining how greenday tookover lookout. Lookout screwed them, and probably many other bands on their label due to shoddy money management.

anticipation 08-24-2005 10:04 AM

the fact that they wrote a song called american idiot when they are american is enough for me to hate them.

Fenixpunk 08-24-2005 10:17 AM

im not defending their music, ive never been a fan of greenday and ive never spent a penny on any of their music (unless you count the 1.00 in pennies we threw at them at the fair, which we snuck in to) Im just defending their decision to not allow lookout to continue to lose the royalties they deserve.

sleepy jack 08-24-2005 02:46 PM

I still agree with hookers its a moral thing.

Fenixpunk 08-24-2005 03:12 PM

so its ok morally for a label to not pay a band if the band is successful?

sleepy jack 08-24-2005 03:16 PM

Green day could bath in money they really dont need anymore lookout got them big they could let them keep the cash they really dont need it.

Fenixpunk 08-24-2005 03:27 PM

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In recent years, previous Lookout! artists Screeching Weasel, Avail, Pansy Division, the Riverdales, the Lillingtons and Enemy You have rescinded their master rights from the label, citing, like Green Day, breach of contract over unpaid royalties.
- unlike greenday, these other bands arent rolling in the money, and lookout still screwed them.

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Green Day has not filed any legal action against Lookout! to recoup the delinquent royalty payments, she said.
- doesnt sound greedy to me, or else they would of already sued the pants off of lookout (like DK did to jello and alt. tent), they just want their masters, which is more than reasonable because lookout is selling it, but not paying the artist....LAME.

Fenixpunk 08-24-2005 03:45 PM

An Open Letter From Label Prez Chris Appelgren

hiu 08-24-2005 08:48 PM

Stop shi'tting your pants over something that won't change.

pastor of muppets 08-25-2005 08:23 AM

i think fenix has got it right....

SATCHMO 08-25-2005 04:51 PM

The simple fact is that bands leave record labels all the time and for much more superficial reasons then why Greenday did. The fact that Greenday stayed with Lookout for over 10 years after they had reached a level of success that surely had major labels beating a path to their door actually boosts my opinion of them. Don't get so disillusioned to be believe that this is anything less than an intelligent business decision, and one that any one of you would make given the same set of circumstances. It could have easily been said ten years ago after Dookie was released and received the acclaim that it did that Greenday owed its success to their record company, but I think at this point, ten years later, the truth is that Lookout owes its current success to Greenday, and the loss of its best selling artist to their own poor business decisions.

tdoc210 08-25-2005 04:58 PM

i still dont like them as a band but record label shifting i brlieve happens all the time

sleepy jack 08-25-2005 05:01 PM

Yeah look at anti fag...flag :rolleyes:

tdoc210 08-25-2005 05:14 PM

^ hah anti *** flag thats funny

aven 09-06-2005 09:27 PM

whatever.i think green day is an awesome band.


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