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Old 01-14-2021, 08:14 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I don't understand why people think it's a knock against Sex Pistols that he put them together

is it because fashion is supposed to be ghey or something

there's no complaints about VU being put together by Andy Warhol

plus they could hardly go a year without getting banned from everywhere and then dissolving

if it was a marketing stunt it'd be the worst one you've ever heard
Neither groups were necessarily "put together" by them; they were more like collaborators, using each other's work to promote each other's work. The Pistols, on the other hand, are more intertwined with McClaren than the VU were with Warhol thanks to the Pistols' short time span of existence and the sheer emphasis placed on the fashion, the commodification of the punk aesthetic.

And I wouldn't say that making headline news, topping the charts, and making coin was a failed experiment.
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Old 01-14-2021, 08:17 PM   #22 (permalink)
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And I wouldn't say that making headline news, topping the charts, and making coin was a failed experiment.
yeah it didn't fail, I just meant it wasn't an act, they really were anarchic nutters...they could have made themselves many times over richer

then PiL was even better pretty much killing any idea that Lydon didn't know what he was doing as an artist
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yeah it didn't fail, I just meant it wasn't an act, they really were anarchic nutters...they could have made themselves many time over richer

then PiL was even better pretty much killing any idea that Lydon didn't know what he was doing as an artist
Yeah, PIL had some good stuff. Seeing the poster boy of punk rock get more experimental and weird would've been interesting to witness in real time
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this might be hard to believe

but Ramones coordinated that whole leather jacket thing too
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