Rap with credibility (rap, cd, jurassic 5, rapper, career)

TheBig3 · 10-10-2005, 10:19 PM

I've heard on more than one occation that rap lacks the 4 components of songs to be considered music. While I think this an established way to push out something I think they have personal problems with, I do think there are certain rappers that are doing intelligent things with their career and making songs that actually give rap some credibility.

I sort of pisses me off that people with intelligence are pushed aside for people who refry the same story of violence time and again. Anyway, please let this thread be the place where people can learn about rappers who are intellectual, and not given recording contracts so that urban white kids can supress their inferiority complexes.

I would stand behind most of the work Common, Mos Def, and MF Doom create.

I'd discuss them at length but I'd just assume people post up their favorites and we can get some momentum.

murd · 10-11-2005, 12:55 AM

rap sucks, thats all i have to say

2ToneRudeGirl · 10-11-2005, 01:17 AM

well..... whatever they do it sounds fukkin great! especially when yer really high

anticipation · 10-11-2005, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murd

rap sucks, thats all i have to say

shut the **** up.

i used to hate it too, like this fool, but ever since i heard Dre's The Chronic and Ice Cube's The Predator, i loved rap. and whoever says that rap lacks the "4 components of songs" is a retard. just listen to NWA's Straight Outta Compton.

right-track · 10-11-2005, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

I do think there are certain rappers that are doing intelligent things with their career and making songs that actually give rap some credibility.

I sort of pisses me off that people with intelligence are pushed aside for people who refry the same story of violence time and again. Anyway, please let this thread be the place where people can learn about rappers who are intellectual, and not given recording contracts so that urban white kids can supress their inferiority complexes.

The Godfather of Rap, Gil Scott Heron.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/profiles/scottherongil.shtml

^For those unaware of this massive talent, here's a taster.^

Urban Hat€monger ? · 10-11-2005, 03:37 PM

I think Dalek , El-p & Jurassic 5 deserve far more exposure than what they have now

Hype8 · 10-11-2005, 05:09 PM

Public Enemy's back at it again, New Whirl Order available at Best Buy and everywhere else the first of November and a couple DVDs and a CD next year. Common Sense is dope as always. Will Smith is always keeping it real. Kanye West is doing good for a so called "mainstream" rapper, he's not that overrated and better than a lot of his competition on radio right now. J5 and a lot of dope artists (Pigeon John, Kel Spencer....) should get more promotion etc because they have talent, but we all know that's not going to happen with the state of hip hop as it is right now. Oh yeah, i think Cozmo D (Newcleus) is working on something new right now, we'll see.

TheBig3 · 10-11-2005, 07:43 PM

Well people who say rap lacks four main components aren't retarted, its just a very "clinical" viewpoint.

I think credibility means someone whos credible, not someone whos hear to talk about lewd sexual acts, money, jewlery, cars, alcohol, and parties. Since most of those are all in the catagory of money, it could be easily argued that must "huge" rappers aren't doing more than singing about money...in every song.

TheBig3 · 10-11-2005, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murd

rap sucks, thats all i have to say

Why:

did you enter the rap forum?
post in this thread?
join these boards?
feel the need to express this opinion as if it will get us to change our positions?
wake up?
buy a computer?

10-10-2005, 10:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	Rap with credibility I've heard on more than one occation that rap lacks the 4 components of songs to be considered music. While I think this an established way to push out something I think they have personal problems with, I do think there are certain rappers that are doing intelligent things with their career and making songs that actually give rap some credibility. I sort of pisses me off that people with intelligence are pushed aside for people who refry the same story of violence time and again. Anyway, please let this thread be the place where people can learn about rappers who are intellectual, and not given recording contracts so that urban white kids can supress their inferiority complexes. I would stand behind most of the work Common, Mos Def, and MF Doom create. I'd discuss them at length but I'd just assume people post up their favorites and we can get some momentum. __________________ I've moved to a new address

10-11-2005, 12:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
murd Groupie Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7	rap sucks, thats all i have to say __________________ dont eat and drive, you may get fat.

10-11-2005, 01:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
2ToneRudeGirl Speed Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: South Houston Posts: 43	well..... whatever they do it sounds fukkin great! especially when yer really high __________________ You must be the change you want to see in the world. .+:.:Mahatma Gandhi:.:+.

10-11-2005, 03:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I think Dalek , El-p & Jurassic 5 deserve far more exposure than what they have now __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

10-11-2005, 05:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
Hype8 Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: california Posts: 191	Public Enemy's back at it again, New Whirl Order available at Best Buy and everywhere else the first of November and a couple DVDs and a CD next year. Common Sense is dope as always. Will Smith is always keeping it real. Kanye West is doing good for a so called "mainstream" rapper, he's not that overrated and better than a lot of his competition on radio right now. J5 and a lot of dope artists (Pigeon John, Kel Spencer....) should get more promotion etc because they have talent, but we all know that's not going to happen with the state of hip hop as it is right now. Oh yeah, i think Cozmo D (Newcleus) is working on something new right now, we'll see. __________________

10-11-2005, 07:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	Well people who say rap lacks four main components aren't retarted, its just a very "clinical" viewpoint. I think credibility means someone whos credible, not someone whos hear to talk about lewd sexual acts, money, jewlery, cars, alcohol, and parties. Since most of those are all in the catagory of money, it could be easily argued that must "huge" rappers aren't doing more than singing about money...in every song. __________________ I've moved to a new address