Immortal Technique (rapper, quote, songs)

333 · 05-02-2009, 06:19 PM

I don't understand pointless, incessant arguing over who is better than whom when it comes to any genre of music - including hip-hop. We have our own preferences, so why not just respect that aspect of listening, discussing and suggestions?

Though there are numerous artists out there who make music in hopes to explain or suggest their political and societal perspectives, I think those who fall under the category of hip-hop are rare. I've yet to hear anyone with lyrics and flow such as Immortal Technique. Not only is he pursuing and urging an awakening in the people, but he is evolutionary to the hip-hop world. Sure, I respect and enjoy a good story teller, freestyles, and hip-hop artists who set there focal point on blunts, guns and bitches, but a person who can help expose the government and the media as the cowards and puppets they are, truly deserve a higher level of recognition than the redundancy that is consistently recycled on the radio and in clubs.

sleepy jack · 05-02-2009, 09:58 PM

Immortal Technique doesn't deserve recognition for that considered most of the things he "exposes" are stupid conspiracy theories (e.g. George Bush blew up the World Trade Center.) If anything he deserves to be mocked along with Mos Def for pretending he knows what he's talking about.

Unrelenting · 05-03-2009, 10:54 AM

If you want a good lyrical rapper, check out Saul Williams

simplephysics · 05-03-2009, 12:27 PM

Immortal Technique really lays on the pseudo-intelligent BS pretty hard, but he's still a decent rapper. If I really wanted to listen to conspiracy theories I'd pull out a Jedi Mind Tricks album.

LoathsomePete · 05-06-2009, 10:04 AM

I agree, I often find myself listening to him and wondering if he found that certain conspiracy at the same website I did. When he breaks away from that though he has some really good songs, like "You Never Know ft. Jean Grae".

333 · 05-06-2009, 01:36 PM

Agreed on Saul Williams and the song "You Never Know".

As for "conspiracy theories", I'd prefer to not talk about them in this thread. I don't know if I could clump Mos Def and I.T in one group, sleepyjack. And yeah, they can come off a bit like know-it-alls, but what rapper doesn't have that type of attitude at one point or another? Also, I.T states in one of his songs of Revolutionary Vol. 2 that he doesn't think Bush blew up the twin towers. As for what he raps about, it's not strictly "conspiracy theories" - what about the songs in which he speaks out against racism? And what of the songs about freedom and oneness? If you think speaking out about this makes him a conspiracy theorist and that we truly are free and one, I don't really know what else to say.

adidasss · 05-06-2009, 02:01 PM

Oh I didn't know he put out another album. Is The 3rd world any good?

333 · 05-06-2009, 02:08 PM

I've listened only to a few tracks and they were alright. I don't know if any of this albums will compare to Vol 2. I have it on vinyl and it's so much better! His work is by no means perfect, but who's is?

simplephysics · 05-06-2009, 02:18 PM

333, I really hope you don't think I was trying to pigeon hole what Immortal Technique stresses in his music, but a good amount of his material does across that way.

ElephantSack · 05-06-2009, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepy jack

Immortal Technique doesn't deserve recognition for that considered most of the things he "exposes" are stupid conspiracy theories (e.g. George Bush blew up the World Trade Center.) If anything he deserves to be mocked along with Mos Def for pretending he knows what he's talking about.

****in' Know-it-All

05-06-2009, 10:04 AM	#35 (permalink)
LoathsomePete Cardboard Box Realtor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hobb's End Posts: 7,648	I agree, I often find myself listening to him and wondering if he found that certain conspiracy at the same website I did. When he breaks away from that though he has some really good songs, like "You Never Know ft. Jean Grae". __________________ Last.FM 101 Albums That May Not Change Your Life, But I Really Like And You Might Too

05-06-2009, 02:01 PM	#37 (permalink)
adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,993	Oh I didn't know he put out another album. Is The 3rd world any good? __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm

05-02-2009, 06:19 PM	#31 (permalink)
333 Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 965	I don't understand pointless, incessant arguing over who is better than whom when it comes to any genre of music - including hip-hop. We have our own preferences, so why not just respect that aspect of listening, discussing and suggestions? Though there are numerous artists out there who make music in hopes to explain or suggest their political and societal perspectives, I think those who fall under the category of hip-hop are rare. I've yet to hear anyone with lyrics and flow such as Immortal Technique. Not only is he pursuing and urging an awakening in the people, but he is evolutionary to the hip-hop world. Sure, I respect and enjoy a good story teller, freestyles, and hip-hop artists who set there focal point on blunts, guns and bitches, but a person who can help expose the government and the media as the cowards and puppets they are, truly deserve a higher level of recognition than the redundancy that is consistently recycled on the radio and in clubs.

05-03-2009, 10:54 AM	#33 (permalink)
Unrelenting True to username Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,100	If you want a good lyrical rapper, check out Saul Williams

05-06-2009, 01:36 PM	#36 (permalink)
333 Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 965	Agreed on Saul Williams and the song "You Never Know". As for "conspiracy theories", I'd prefer to not talk about them in this thread. I don't know if I could clump Mos Def and I.T in one group, sleepyjack. And yeah, they can come off a bit like know-it-alls, but what rapper doesn't have that type of attitude at one point or another? Also, I.T states in one of his songs of Revolutionary Vol. 2 that he doesn't think Bush blew up the twin towers. As for what he raps about, it's not strictly "conspiracy theories" - what about the songs in which he speaks out against racism? And what of the songs about freedom and oneness? If you think speaking out about this makes him a conspiracy theorist and that we truly are free and one, I don't really know what else to say.

05-06-2009, 02:08 PM	#38 (permalink)
333 Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 965	I've listened only to a few tracks and they were alright. I don't know if any of this albums will compare to Vol 2. I have it on vinyl and it's so much better! His work is by no means perfect, but who's is?