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dphillipsstrg 09-22-2006 03:41 PM

Immortal Technique
 
I am looking for anyone similar to Immortal Technique. He is one of the best lyricist I have heard recently and I was hoping someone knows of other somewhat underground rappers with a sound like Immortal Technique, Nas, Biggie, Pac, Luda, Wu, or the old Mobb Deep (u know, quiet storm, shook ones, get away) the good stuff. Holla at me with some advice. I'm always looking to find more talented musicians. Thanks to anyone with advice

sleepy jack 09-22-2006 04:03 PM

Sage Francis has reallyreally good lyrics.

dphillipsstrg 09-22-2006 10:31 PM

Man
 
You must be the only person on this planet who knows more music than I do. I thought I was doing good with the extensive knowledge I have of all music categories but you have obviously surpassed me. Who knows. Maybe there is music I know that you don't. It's great to see a kindred spirit who thrives off of the passion that music can create . Thank you.

RHYMEFESTkillah 09-22-2006 10:38 PM

sage francis is ten thousand times more popular then immortal tech you don't have to be sum music god to know him

RHYMEFESTkillah 09-22-2006 10:39 PM

as for music that sounds like immortal tech, sage francis doesn't sound one thing like him, listen to jedi mind tricks or dead prez. what you want is hardcore hip hop, sage francis is artsy sh*t for people who don't like rap

sleepy jack 09-22-2006 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RHYMEFESTkillah (Post 289580)
sage francis is ten thousand times more popular then immortal tech you don't have to be sum music god to know him

He was also talking about the other reccomandations i've made him.

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Originally Posted by RHYMEFESTkillah (Post 289582)
as for music that sounds like immortal tech, sage francis doesn't sound one thing like him, listen to jedi mind tricks or dead prez. what you want is hardcore hip hop, sage francis is artsy sh*t for people who don't like rap

I was giving him rap with good lyrics, which Sage Francis has.

riseagainstrocks 09-22-2006 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RHYMEFESTkillah (Post 289582)
as for music that sounds like immortal tech, sage francis doesn't sound one thing like him, listen to jedi mind tricks or dead prez. what you want is hardcore hip hop, sage francis is artsy sh*t for people who don't like rap


False. He's socially conscious, white, and has better flow than many rappers.

I listen to most of the Wu-Tang clan solo albums. The best to be is GZA's Liquid Swords. But comparing IT to anyone is kinda stupid. The man has a one-of-a-kind diction and delivery

RHYMEFESTkillah 09-22-2006 10:52 PM

i don't understand how wut i said was false since:
1. i inever said he wasnt socially conscious
2. i never said he wasn't white
3. i also never said his flow wasn't better then many rappers.

having a flow better than many rappers doesnt mean much since, many rappers have terrible flow. a mediocre flow is better then many rappers.

as for technique not being able to be compared to, i agree. tech is dope, his music is fresh and he even makes talented underground rappers look wack! but for music dat sounds like his i would say the closest is jmt and dead prez. he is often compared (sound wise) to each of them

dphillipsstrg 09-24-2006 08:37 PM

considering I grew up on rap
 
It's going to be tough for you guys to come up with anyone I haven't heard. Jedi is tight, Prez is dope as hell, Wu-Tang is one of the Gods of rap. Liquid Swprds is a classic. And yes, Crowquill has recommended much music to me in other genre's. I was referring to the fact that he was recommending rap music as well. He knows a lot of different types of music and I think that's cool as hell. I am really looking for some underground stuff, Tech is fairly unknown especially in smaller cities where I live and I am looking for people like that. Thanks again guys

[MERIT] 09-25-2006 01:58 PM

eyedea trounces all over immortal technique, even though im an I.T. fan. ive got a track of them freestyle battling, and eyedea cuts him off at the knees. also chck out chino xl and murdamook.

sainthood 09-25-2006 11:40 PM

"The Further Sounds" isn't as hardcore, but they seem to be pretty intelligent.

Check it: http://www.myspace.com/thefurthersoundscrew

dphillipsstrg 09-26-2006 02:13 PM

Eyedea better than Tech? I have a lot of Eyedea's stuff and he's str8 but I don't feel he is even on Tech's level. I've heard the freestyle battle you speak of and yeah, Eyedea did get him, but Tech's flows are considerably more intricate and crafty. Murdamook is alright. I like a few of his songs. Keep them comin guys. The first person I haven't actually heard is the further sounds. I've heard everything else. The rapper doesn't have to sound like Tech, just be a talented fairly unknown rapper.

bungalow 09-26-2006 02:18 PM

Check out some videos of Iron Soloman and iLLmaculate (Sandpeople). Great rappers.

anticipation 09-26-2006 07:06 PM

Have you ever heard of Punch & Wordsworth? They did a compilation called Lyricists Lounge that is dope.

riseagainstrocks 09-26-2006 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RHYMEFESTkillah (Post 289588)
i don't understand how wut i said was false since:
1. i inever said he wasnt socially conscious
2. i never said he wasn't white
3. i also never said his flow wasn't better then many rappers.

having a flow better than many rappers doesnt mean much since, many rappers have terrible flow. a mediocre flow is better then many rappers.


You said he was trash for people who don't like rap.

I like rap. And Sage.

[MERIT] 09-27-2006 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dphillipsstrg (Post 290274)
Eyedea better than Tech? I have a lot of Eyedea's stuff and he's str8 but I don't feel he is even on Tech's level. I've heard the freestyle battle you speak of and yeah, Eyedea did get him, but Tech's flows are considerably more intricate and crafty. Murdamook is alright. I like a few of his songs. Keep them comin guys. The first person I haven't actually heard is the further sounds. I've heard everything else. The rapper doesn't have to sound like Tech, just be a talented fairly unknown rapper.

technique is more into telling stories with his raps, is that what youre looking for?

bungalow 09-27-2006 02:20 PM

He tells stories in three songs, out of about 60...

[MERIT] 09-28-2006 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357 (Post 290597)
He tells stories in three songs, out of about 60...

who would you reccomend smart ass?

bungalow 09-29-2006 09:31 AM

Have I not already reccomended? Who would YOU reccomend, not like you actually gave any reccomendations, just made a comment based off two or three songs you've heard.

[MERIT] 09-29-2006 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bungalowbill357 (Post 291176)
Have I not already reccomended? Who would YOU reccomend, not like you actually gave any reccomendations, just made a comment based off two or three songs you've heard.

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 290045)
eyedea trounces all over immortal technique, even though im an I.T. fan. ive got a track of them freestyle battling, and eyedea cuts him off at the knees. also chck out chino xl and murdamook.

and believe it or not i have heard more than 3 of their songs in my entire lifetime. So here's some IT lyrics, knock yourself out. http://www.lyrics007.com/Immortal%20...%20Lyrics.html

bungalow 09-29-2006 02:24 PM

You don't think I know his lyrics? Hah.
The only songs of his that storytell are You Never Know, Dance With the Devil, and to some extent Peruvian Cocaine. Maybe you should look at some of those lyrics buddy.

Also, if you're such a fan, I would think that you would know that Immortal Technique is one man, not a group.
Quote:

i have heard more than 3 of their songs

[MERIT] 09-29-2006 03:17 PM

well i guess you and i gave different definitions of "telling a story." and yes i know that immortal technique is not a group. if you actually read my post you would realize that by "they" i was referring to IT, Eyedea, Chino xl, and murdamook, the rappers that i had previously recommended. why dont you think before you type next time, so you dont look like a dipshit again.

glazedface 09-29-2006 05:22 PM

i would like to add that i normally dont listen to any rap at all, as i hate most of the genre. however I once heard an immortal technique song in my friends car and was like "wow, this is great! what is it?" and now im a fan of immortal technique. hes the only rapper i listen to.

[MERIT] 09-29-2006 06:24 PM

hes definitely unique

littledude 09-29-2006 08:01 PM

it is a dope rapper fo sho

bungalow 09-29-2006 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oojay (Post 291272)
well i guess you and i gave different definitions of "telling a story." and yes i know that immortal technique is not a group. if you actually read my post you would realize that by "they" i was referring to IT, Eyedea, Chino xl, and murdamook, the rappers that i had previously recommended. why dont you think before you type next time, so you dont look like a dipshit again.

Yeah sure, I believe you man :rolleyes:

DZdemon 10-01-2006 12:31 AM

Immortal Technique
 
I am new to the forums but love immortal technique aswell, the only thing i dont get is when people talk about immortal technique, why do they say his politics are crazy? I mean he makes sense of what he says, anyway im new so someone please reply thanks!
favourite songs:
Cause of Death
4th Branch
Land of the Gun

mannequin Republic 10-09-2006 01:47 PM

I enjoy Immortal Technique, but I've really burnt myself out on him. I agree you should check out Sage Francis, aswell as almost everyone on Rhymesayers (aesop rock, eyedea, brotha ali, slug). Also someone mentioned Wu-Tang's members solo albums, and I completely agree, most of their **** is really good. Also look into blackilicious. Other than that, Tech n9ne, brotha lynch, and x-raided, I don't really listen to much rap.

EDIT: Mos Def. I love the guy to death, but he is REALLY hit or miss. When he hits though, the **** is out of the park.

[MERIT] 10-09-2006 08:53 PM

i think RHYMEFESTkillah hit the nail on the head suggesting jedi mind tricks. thats abt as close to immortal technique as youre gonna find.

LadyRoes 12-12-2008 11:43 AM

what ever happened to that Gangstarr? NOW hes brilliant, not to mention his originality.

333 05-02-2009 06:19 PM

I don't understand pointless, incessant arguing over who is better than whom when it comes to any genre of music - including hip-hop. We have our own preferences, so why not just respect that aspect of listening, discussing and suggestions?

Though there are numerous artists out there who make music in hopes to explain or suggest their political and societal perspectives, I think those who fall under the category of hip-hop are rare. I've yet to hear anyone with lyrics and flow such as Immortal Technique. Not only is he pursuing and urging an awakening in the people, but he is evolutionary to the hip-hop world. Sure, I respect and enjoy a good story teller, freestyles, and hip-hop artists who set there focal point on blunts, guns and bitches, but a person who can help expose the government and the media as the cowards and puppets they are, truly deserve a higher level of recognition than the redundancy that is consistently recycled on the radio and in clubs.

sleepy jack 05-02-2009 09:58 PM

Immortal Technique doesn't deserve recognition for that considered most of the things he "exposes" are stupid conspiracy theories (e.g. George Bush blew up the World Trade Center.) If anything he deserves to be mocked along with Mos Def for pretending he knows what he's talking about.

Unrelenting 05-03-2009 10:54 AM

If you want a good lyrical rapper, check out Saul Williams

simplephysics 05-03-2009 12:27 PM

Immortal Technique really lays on the pseudo-intelligent BS pretty hard, but he's still a decent rapper. If I really wanted to listen to conspiracy theories I'd pull out a Jedi Mind Tricks album.

LoathsomePete 05-06-2009 10:04 AM

I agree, I often find myself listening to him and wondering if he found that certain conspiracy at the same website I did. When he breaks away from that though he has some really good songs, like "You Never Know ft. Jean Grae".

333 05-06-2009 01:36 PM

Agreed on Saul Williams and the song "You Never Know".

As for "conspiracy theories", I'd prefer to not talk about them in this thread. I don't know if I could clump Mos Def and I.T in one group, sleepyjack. And yeah, they can come off a bit like know-it-alls, but what rapper doesn't have that type of attitude at one point or another? Also, I.T states in one of his songs of Revolutionary Vol. 2 that he doesn't think Bush blew up the twin towers. As for what he raps about, it's not strictly "conspiracy theories" - what about the songs in which he speaks out against racism? And what of the songs about freedom and oneness? If you think speaking out about this makes him a conspiracy theorist and that we truly are free and one, I don't really know what else to say.

adidasss 05-06-2009 02:01 PM

Oh I didn't know he put out another album. Is The 3rd world any good?

333 05-06-2009 02:08 PM

I've listened only to a few tracks and they were alright. I don't know if any of this albums will compare to Vol 2. I have it on vinyl and it's so much better! His work is by no means perfect, but who's is?

simplephysics 05-06-2009 02:18 PM

333, I really hope you don't think I was trying to pigeon hole what Immortal Technique stresses in his music, but a good amount of his material does across that way.

ElephantSack 05-06-2009 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 651400)
Immortal Technique doesn't deserve recognition for that considered most of the things he "exposes" are stupid conspiracy theories (e.g. George Bush blew up the World Trade Center.) If anything he deserves to be mocked along with Mos Def for pretending he knows what he's talking about.

****in' Know-it-All


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