Music Banter - Immortal Technique

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Originally Posted by matious (Post 829792)

never tried it. But we got bean burrito, lasagna, bagels, cheese pizza. Plenty of options equally disgusting to the regular meat lunch.

I like immortal technique, but i can't listen to him non-stop. Listening to him once is enough for me to get the gist of all his lyrics, while my favorite mc's i have to listen to repeatedly to catch some of the subtle lines.

He seems like he's constantly trying to show off his vocabulary, and it makes his delivery a little harder to dig into, if that makes sense to anyone else.

Absolutely. I think he wants to be branded Tupac 2.0, meaning smart but in no way emasculated.

"But you know what I think is just pathetic and gay?
When niggas speculate what the fuck 'Pac would say."

- Immortal Technique

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Originally Posted by ElephantSack (Post 830368)

"But you know what I think is just pathetic and gay?
When niggas speculate what the fuck 'Pac would say."

- Immortal Technique

Aw. Ownd.

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Originally Posted by dark shadow (Post 830437)

as for the song, I don't personally feel its that big of a deal as its one song from a rapper who has very little credibility because of his aforementioned extreme politics, which he sometimes seems to flaunt as if he's extreme for the sake of extremity. However, I do understand why someone would be very offended by the lyrics, especially since he claims in other songs that "some will look for hypocrisy and hatred in my words, but will find none."

I don't see anything wrong with extremeness for the sake of extremity. Nobody says you have to believe everything you write about. A narrator can be a charachter too.
On a completely unrelated point, I think that's why some musicians prefer to perform with masks on- it creates a difference in-between the "you" that does the shopping and the "you" that does the rapping.

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Originally Posted by t3hplatyz0rz (Post 830628)

I think if Immortal Technique is only pretending to be aggressive (in his lyrics) as part of a character portrayal, then he is a very good actor!:)

I agree with you, though, t3hplatyz0rz, that musicians are free to play with the persona they want to have during a song. Trying to figure out the real viewpoint of a singer is fun for me. The actual meaning behind the ostensible meaning of a song is not always clear. And sometimes there is no meaning.

I like your description of how some (many?) musicians want to create a difference between the person who "does the shopping" and the person who "does the rapping." I guess I have simplistically assumed that with Immortal Technique, his shopper self is the same as his rapper self. But hey, for all I know, maybe the guy is a vegan pretending to not like vegans who comment on his food choices! ;) Now *that* would be interesting.

*Bump*
I've been listening to a lot of Immortal Technique recently.
Machismo aside, he's probably one of the best hip hop artists out right now; politically and musically.
If you haven't listened to his newest album (2008, not really new), it's called The Third World.
I recommend the songs "Hollywood Drive By," "Reverse Pimpology," and "Open Your Eyes."
Good stuff!

Man, what happened to this thread, and where were the mods on this one?

Trauma, do you like any of his older stuff?

That first question is fantastic.
Yes, I like all of his work, for the most part.
I first got really into him about four years ago, before he released The Third World.
I think his music's had a good progression.
I saw him live many months ago, and he was just as good live.
Though... the machismo of him and his crew kills me.

Yeah, when I saw them a couple of years ago, they tried to fight someone in the audience within the first 15. Not cool.

It's funny this thread popped up because I was just listening to Immortal Technique yesterday for the first time in a while. I only have one of his albums. I mostly enjoy it but I do find him annoyingly preachy at times. And for a guy who calls himself "immortal technique" his rapping is pretty hit-or-miss.