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immortal technique
 

really good political rapper
if you like what i would consider good rap you should check him out

i think hes kind of overrated personally. He's not bad, but i don't think he's anything particularly special either.

i only have revolutionary pt.1 , maybe i need to check out something else?

i dont know about cds ive just been liscening to him online and really like what ive heard should check out 4th branch
thats been one of my favorite songs thus far

Undoubtedly one of the most influential rappers in recent memory. His brand of concious rap always purveys a strong message. He's a great MC as well, his battle raps are usually hilarious. He completely dismantles his opponents. I wached an inerview wirh him were he said he didn't think about winning the battle rap, he just wants to maim his opponent as badly as possibly. I remember a battle lyric to the tune of "Shoot your mother in the back and f*ck every bullet hole until she's dead." Strong stuff.

Yeah, Immortal Technique is solid. Revolutionary Vol. 1 & 2 are fairly essential.

haha i believe it was "If you think your better than me youre straight telling LIES ill shoot your mom in the back and F**K the bullet hole til she DIES."

how is he nuts?

Regarding Immortal Technique: what to download first?

Revolutionary Vol. 1&2

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Revolutionary Vol. 1

His best track is on there - Dance With The Devil

Revolutionary Vol. 2 is definitely more accessible though.

I guess it depends on how dark you want to start to off.

Yeah. I couldn't say which album is better, Vol. 1 has a darker and more unpolished sound--like he recorded it in a basement. Vol. 2 is more listener friendly with something that more closely resembles mainstream-production.

Three words: "You Never Know"

Sorry man, I love The Revolutionary vol. 1 but Vol. 2 got me with that song. To date it is the only song that has ever brought a tear to my eye, yes I can admit it.

I actually kind of took a few moments to myself after listening to Dance With The Devil... Got goosebumps after listening to that track, one of the rawest moments in music I'd have to say...

That's the track that got me into him actually. I was looking for the Norwegian black metal band Immortal on demonoid a while back and the album came up with the song "Dance With the Devil" and I"m thinking... yeah that sounds pretty black metalish... *click* *listen* *jaw drop*

Nice lyrics, weaker flow. Powerful, but crackpot-esque at times. IT really makes me take the good with the bad. He definitely comes off as intelligent, though, which I do like.

I kept seeing posters around town last year for a live concert by this guy. Now I'm disappointed I didn't go:(

The guy is just so raw Some of his rymes just make your jaw drop.

Love the politics, love the flow and love his beats.

Although the 3rd world was incredibly dissapointing.


Favourite tracks, the cause of death, the poverty of philosophy, the 4th branch, revolutionary and of course dance with the devil.

FOR MY NIGGAS

[insert conspiracy theory]

FUCK DA GOVERNMENT

[insert generic hip hop brag]

Topped off with a stupid voice and an offbeat delivery.

in 95% of his songs, i agree with you. but there are a few hidden gems on his cds lyrically, where his metaphors actually transcend the extremist idealogy he regurgitates in the rest of his music.

I like a few tracks off of Revolutionary Vol. 2.

I agree with others who feel "Dance with the Devil" is probably Immortal Technique's best song because of the disturbing story. I haven't heard all of his songs, though, so I can't judge them all.

Which of his songs do I dislike the most? Earlier some people complained about his politics and worldview. If his song "Beans and Broccoli" truly represents what he knows about vegetarianism, then Immortal Technique has no awareness or understanding of the environmental benefits, health benefits, and animal welfare benefits of plant-based diets. He thinks vegetarianism is just a "dietary choice" that only impacts the taste of the foods you eat. I was surprised by how narrow-minded his views on vegetarianism appear to be, so his song "Beans and Broccoli" is the one I dislike the most:

dance with the devil, You Never Know

<3

EXACTLY. I was introduced to IT by some youngster potheads like it was the holy grail of Hip Hop... but I've never understood it. I still am holding out, I gotta really give it a fair listen again but so far, not really diggin it.

His voice is irritating and his arguments are exactly the kinda hair brained stuff potheads talk about. Meh, I dunno... not really impressed.

Politics aside he is a quality act certainly not the holy grail but good none the less,

The beats are excellent his flow is good and some of his put downs and metaphors are unreal. Id imagine he is an awsum battle mc.

You really should give him another listen.


As for his politics, he comes across as pretty intelligent to me, some of his arguments are simplistic but when he is fighting against the likes of Fox news and American conservative journalism in general its only natural for him to gravitate towards their level. Its not as if his target audience will be fulll of well educated men now is it.

im pretty sure that people aren't complaining about the intelligence of his arguments, but rather the radical extremism such as:
"I was watching the Towers, and though I wasn't the closest
I saw them crumble to the Earth like they was full of explosives
...
They dubbed a tape of Osama, and they said it was proof
"Jealous of our freedom," I can't believe you bought that excuse"
"Bush knocked down the towers"
"But when I'm gone they'll sing a song about Immortal Technique
Who beheaded the President, and the princes and sheiks"

but there are also lyrics in his songs that are powerful and clever:
"Put your hands in the air like you got the heat to your back
and shake your body like a baby born addicted to crack
And since life is a gamble like the crabstables at Vegas
I freestyle my destiny, it's not written in pages"


"But that will never be me, cuz I am leavin' the past
like an abused wife with the kids, leavin' your ass
Like a drug addict clean and sober, leavin' the stash
unbreakable Technique leavin' the plane crash
I'm out with the black box and I refuse to return"


"This is for the illest emcees that'll never be known
And this is for all the soliders that'll never come home
I wrote this for Momia, stuck in a beast
For people who, march in the streets, and struggle for peace"


but a God of hiphop, or a top 10 MC, he definitely is not

He speaks his mind, that's what I like about him. Problem is, as soon as you mention a "conspiracy theory" people label you as nuts even if there is more facts supporting your theory than the actual reason the media and government gave to joe public.

Anyway...

As a rapper he's decent. Nothing spectacular, i listened to him for the topics more than his lyrical ability. People seem to think he's a lyricist because he uses "big words" lol..a common mistake within our culture I'm afraid.

I prefer his earlier stuff from Revolutionary Vol. 1 and 2. His enwest stuff has been quite weak although he did do an awesome track with Lowkey, who in my opinion is a far superior rapper.

@ VEGANGELICA - nothing wrong with vegans and vegetarians but when they try to force it upon their children that's where the problem begins. Especially vegans, children need milk and dairy products to help their growth, this is fact. And you can't get it from chewing on alternatives. Children are ending up with rickets and **** now because these vegan parents are to retarded to look after their childs health, they would rather watch them die living by their stupid vegan ways.

anyway..rant over.

I really like Dance With the Devil as I'm sure many people do, but of the two songs i heard by him his rap persona reminded me a lot of Nas in flow and rhyme scheme, etc. But yeah, he's an acclaimed artist from what it seems, what should I check out?

mmmmkay i think i can manage that sir.

i personally dig this song:

You're right, it isn't just a dietary choice, but he totally hit the nail on the head with some vegans being elitist bints. IT eats meat because it tastes good and I guess thats his decision.
Although I gave it up for ethical reasons and preach a bit, I don't think I'm a saint because of it. I don't think its a big deal that I don't eat meat and its not even very hard anymore. I wish less people ate meat or more people ate signifigantly less meat, but eating meat doesn't make them bad people and it doesn't give me the right to harp on them.
Beliefs aside, the song is great.

Oh definitely, Tumor, eating meat doesn't make a person overall "bad." The irony of the song, though, is that Immaculate Deception lashes out at vegetarians, doing the very thing he says he doesn't want them to do to him. For example, he calls them names: "fucking broccoli head" and "malnutrition ass."

What *really* bugs me, though, about this song is when he says, "I'll be damned if I let someone push their agenda on me." (And not just because "someone" is singular and "their" is plural.);)

Snort! The man has had an agenda pushed on him his whole life. Watch TV and you are inundated with meat-eating commercials; almost every little baby gets mashed meats stuffed in her mouth; elementary schools offer only meat-entrees...at least in the Midwest (where he's from, I think...Minneapolis?), with only one vegetarian option: a peanut butter sandwich. And, the U.S. government's USDA gives people incorrect nutrition information (failing to inform them that nutritionists advise eliminating red meat almost entirely from the diet). And yet IT is unaware of all the ways his culture *has* pushed the meat-eating agenda on him. That's what bugs me.

As for the music, even if it *were* a pro-vegetarianism song, I still wouldn't like it. It has a very repetitive tune, consisting of 3 notes repeated again and again, like water torture drops plunking on my forehead.:) And ****, can't he write a song without using a swearword in it?

I don't know if he's from mpls. But we definitely have other vegetarian options now. I think we got a veggie samwhich. :)

I wouldn't know anything about cafeteria options, mine has three vending machines.
IT is probably going off what he knows. I doubt he is as knowledgable about it as you are, but he probably doesn't care. He just doesn't want to be judged and looked down upon for his choices.
Although his only argument seems to be that we are too skinny (LOL@own_lovehandles) and that meat tastes good.

You are lucky, matious! We'll, I'm glad to know some schools have progressed past PB&J...though I suppose whether this is a good thing depends on the veggie samwhich: is it shredded carrots on Wonder bread with some ice berg lettuce? Or something substantial like hummus? To quote Immortal Technique, I "can really **** up" a hummus sandwich.

Yes, you are probably right about IT, Tumor. No one likes to feel judged, which I understand. His argument *is* a little thin though. (Ha ha! That was a pun!)

Prince EA is like a better immortal technique

never tried it. But we got bean burrito, lasagna, bagels, cheese pizza. Plenty of options equally disgusting to the regular meat lunch.

I like immortal technique, but i can't listen to him non-stop. Listening to him once is enough for me to get the gist of all his lyrics, while my favorite mc's i have to listen to repeatedly to catch some of the subtle lines.

He seems like he's constantly trying to show off his vocabulary, and it makes his delivery a little harder to dig into, if that makes sense to anyone else.

I listened to Prince EA on grooveshark, and maybe I just chose bad songs, but it was ****.