TumorAttitude

I wouldn't know anything about cafeteria options, mine has three vending machines.
IT is probably going off what he knows. I doubt he is as knowledgable about it as you are, but he probably doesn't care. He just doesn't want to be judged and looked down upon for his choices.
Although his only argument seems to be that we are too skinny (LOL@own_lovehandles) and that meat tastes good.

VEGANGELICA

You are lucky, matious! We'll, I'm glad to know some schools have progressed past PB&J...though I suppose whether this is a good thing depends on the veggie samwhich: is it shredded carrots on Wonder bread with some ice berg lettuce? Or something substantial like hummus? To quote Immortal Technique, I "can really **** up" a hummus sandwich.

Yes, you are probably right about IT, Tumor. No one likes to feel judged, which I understand. His argument *is* a little thin though. (Ha ha! That was a pun!)

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Sparky

never tried it. But we got bean burrito, lasagna, bagels, cheese pizza. Plenty of options equally disgusting to the regular meat lunch.

I like immortal technique, but i can't listen to him non-stop. Listening to him once is enough for me to get the gist of all his lyrics, while my favorite mc's i have to listen to repeatedly to catch some of the subtle lines.

He seems like he's constantly trying to show off his vocabulary, and it makes his delivery a little harder to dig into, if that makes sense to anyone else.

VEGANGELICA

Oh, it makes complete sense, matious. For example, take that "Beef and Broccoli" song. He uses quite a few high-brow words, ones even *I* don't regularly use in speech , such as, "Bereft, proliferate, castigate, illogicality." Then he turns around and uses the lowest of the lowbrow, "mother****ing," approximately 36 times.

Immortal Technique sounds to me like he is showing off in two ways. First, he is trying to show how clever he is; second, he is trying to show how dismissive of others he can be.

The veggie options you have look pretty good to me!

I missed your comments, Captain Awesome! Human children do not need dairy products from other species in order to survive and flourish. And that IS an actual fact. Many children throughout the world eat no milk at all, other than their mother's. Breast milk should be a baby's sole food and liquid through 6 months of age and also provides important nutrients and closeness up to the time when children's urge to suckle fades away around 5 years of age. There is no human biological need for the milk from any other species.

You are right that some uninformed vegans have made horrendous errors with their children's diets...but this is an exception and far from the rule and unfortunately reflects the fact that most people, whether omnivorous or vegan, appear to lack important nutrition information. A dangerous situation is when people are so uninformed that they don't realize they are uninformed. I doubt many parents want to watch their children die.

The importance I place on people informing themselves is the reason Immortal Technique's "Beef and Broccoli" song bothers me so much: since he is famous, he has a chance to inform others and to broaden his own mind in the process, but he fails to do either.

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Captain Awesome

And where are you getting this FALSE information from? It's a typical closed minded vegan thing to say. The information I have is from doctors and people who have studied biology and medicine. Articles in science magazines, true fact. You're probably getting your information from Vegan weekly or some other brainwashing bull**** magazine.

Children NEED milk. They NEED vitamin D. And idiotic closed minded vegans who force their children into their way of life are destroying them, killing them.

The recommended intake of calcium PER DAY for 9 - 18 year olds is 1,300 milligrams. Milk and Cheese are the best sources for this (followed by yoghurt..another dairy product). You can also use other items such as Orange Juice and Broccoli. But you would need to take in almost nine times the amount of broccoli to get the same amount of calcium you would get from just over 200millilitres of milk (that's one glass of milk). So one glass of milk is equal to just over one litre of broccoli. So unless you're feeding your kid a litre of broccoli each day you are risking your childs health, they would become drastically more susceptible to hypocalcemia, rickets, Osteomalacia, liver failure and various other serious health problems.

Eating meat does not harm your health. The key to being healthy is not to rule out an entire food group but to eat everything in moderation. To much of any one thing is bad for you.

Vegans who force their children into eating like them are killing their own flesh and blood. Simple as that.

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"If we're all merely players in a play on this great stage,
the problem is the script writers ain't on the same page,
I echo through the mountain when I'm singing in the air,
from my lab a lad with lavish lyrics living in his lair."


"Wake up and listen, hear what's not for the public's ears
Pinocchio poets played by profiting puppeteers"

VEGANGELICA

Captain Awesome, I get my nutrition information from a variety of non-vegan, scholarly sources, which state clearly that humans do not need the milk of other species:

Harvard School of Public Health:
Calcium and Milk - What Should You Eat? - The Nutrition Source - Harvard School of Public Health

American Dietetic Association:
Position Paper on Vegetarian Diets
Vegetarian Diets

You are very correct that humans need vitamin D and must take vitamin D supplements if they do not get enough sunlight. I am wondering if you realize dairy products are usually supplemented with synthetic vitamin D?

Well, Immortal Technique's "Beef and Broccoli" song has inspired us to learn about where we each get our information. So, that's something nice about the song!

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Captain Awesome

Supplements are not enough. You can't exhange the real thing for some pill or an alternative, that's just foolish. Like I already said, you would need to consume an incredible amount.

Closed minded vegans like yourself are forcing their children into their way of life and killing them. It's child abuse and I will NEVER condone it.

Ask ANY doctor. They will tell you that nothing is a substitute for dairy when it comes to your childs intake of calcium.

The article you posted from the Harvard School of Public Health suggests alternatives such as bok choy, soy milk and baked beans. What they don't tell you is that a ten year old would need to eat 1.9 litres of bok choy or a litre of baked beans to get the daily recommendation of calcium in comparison to just under 3 glasses of milk.

These "alternatives" are not good enough. Unless of course you're feeding them a litre of baked beans or 1.9 litres of bok choy per day which I highly doubt vegan parents do.

The vegan diet (when forced upon children) is unhealthy and extremely dangerous. Unless your kid is lactose intolerant you better be feeding them some ****ing dairy.

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"If we're all merely players in a play on this great stage,
the problem is the script writers ain't on the same page,
I echo through the mountain when I'm singing in the air,
from my lab a lad with lavish lyrics living in his lair."


"Wake up and listen, hear what's not for the public's ears
Pinocchio poets played by profiting puppeteers"

TumorAttitude

Absolutely. I think he wants to be branded Tupac 2.0, meaning smart but in no way emasculated.