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The Kirby/FaSho Hip-Hop Review/Education Thread
Okay so We'll both be updating this doing album reviews and as time progresses maybe a compilation or two. and blah blah blah I'll start this off.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...athermanLP.jpg OVERALL:8.5/10The Weatherman LP By Evidence
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Damn. I meant to say Underground hip-hop. Soembody change the title maybe please?
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Most people here don't pay attention to mainstream anyways.
Awesome concept for a thread; I know I need to learn more about hip-hop. If matious was here he might have something to say, ProggyMan too. |
Killer - Tech N9ne [2008] http://www.lasvegasjuggalos.com/Images/TECH9Killer.png Tech N9ne, for a long time, has been one of my favorite rappers. He has versatility, and with that, is able to do a lot of different kinds of tracks. Ranging from Emotional to Party to Darker types of tracks. His latest effort, Killer, is a milestone for Tech, being his first double disc album, and the album that would push him over one million independant sales. Disc 1: Tech opens up the album with an intro skit, Dr. Frazier's Office, in which he is speaking to a psychiatrist, and it leads into the album, making it seem like all of the tracks are his inner thoughts. After the intro Like Yeah starts the album off with a hype track. The beginning of the track mimics 300, "Technicians! Ahoo! Ahoo! Ahoo!" and then Tech starts rapping. It's a pretty good track, and a great opener to the album. Next, we have a pretty mediocre track, Wheaties. Wheaties slows down the album, after Like Yeah, so it feels pretty out of place. The verses and the production go pretty nicely together, although the hook seems a little cliche. Everybody Move comes in next, and brings up the party-type vibe again. This should have been after Like Yeah, but oh well. Everybody Move is one of the singles off of Killer. The track has a rapid-type feel to it, while Tech switches up the patterns and rhyme-schemes a few times. It gives it a pretty nice effect. The next track is mediocre at best. Get The F*ck Outta Here features Paul Wall and The Popper. Both of them are known for their slower flows, which are good on this Down-South-Houston type beat. Tech starts slow-speeds up to fast-and slows back down on his verse, which should set the pace for the rest of the track. The Popper and Paul Wall just can not bring as good of a verse as Tech did. After a lackluster track, The Waitress is welcome and promising. The Waitress is a fun track, with a bouncy beat, definitely makes you want to move. After Waitress, Tech goes into his feelings of the state of hip-hop on Crybaby, which attacks all of the people saying Hip-Hop's dead because of youngsters having fun. Once again, we have a pretty dull track, this time called Sh*t Is Real. It's a track about partying when you're stressed and stuff. Lazy track, accompanied by a very dull hook makes this a low point. The next two tracks, Black Boy and Pillow Talkin' are pretty mediocre. Neither bring anything special to the table. Paint A Dark Picture is a big change of pace. It's a darker track. The beat, accompanied by the fast flows of Tech N9ne and The Dirtball, make this one of the better features on the album. Hope For A Higher Power is a GREAT track, speaking on Tech's views of religion. After the skit, Psycho Bitch II is a return to one of the most famous Tech N9ne tracks (Psycho Bitch from the Anghellic album), which ends up being pretty amazing. Phantom Of The Opera is sampled for the Chorus, and is one of the faster tracks on the album. Poisonous has the best hook of any of the other songs on the album. Liz Suwandi provides the singing in the hook, which, accompanied with the beat, makes it feel very hypnotic. The end of Disc 1, Too Much ends with Tech N9ne and labelmates Kutt Calhoun and Krizz Kaliko. With a tribal-feeling beat, excellent hook from Krizz Kaliko and VERY nice verses from Tech N9ne and Kutt Calhoun provide a great ending to the first disc of Killer. This track leaves you wanting more. Disc 2: Disc 2 starts off with I Love You, But F*ck You. It's a very personal track, with all three verses speaking on real-life situations with Tech N9ne. Definitely a high-point on the album. And, even though it's a high-point, the next track is my personal favorite. One Good Time is a deep, personal track. Tech explaining that he hasn't been able to cry for years, even though he wants to. The very personal lyrics along with The guitar and production (from Matic Lee) make this track stand out more than the rest of the album. How this album goes from One Good Time to Drill Team is beyond me. The track features a drill-team type beat, with horns and drums. Tech and labelmates/friends Snug Brim and BG Bulletwound make this a naughty track, with a pretty clever theme. Beat You Up continues on the same type of production of Drill-Team, so it's a great follow-up. I believe the track title is self-explanatory. Next, Let's Go returns to the club vibe of the album. Kutt Calhoun and Mistah F.A.B. bring great verses and flows to the song, and it's good for what it is. Why You Ain't Call Me is another angry/personal track, in which Tech wonders why none of the higher-ups in the game see his ability. Seven Words starts out sounding like a love-song. It turns sexual pretty quickly, and I will admit. The seven words made me laugh out loud. Quite literally. The Sexorcist is another sexual track, obviously. Krizz Kaliko is featured, singing during most of the song, with a Tech verse thrown in. Pretty nice track, showcasing Krizz's abilites, more than Tech's. After a pretty pointless skit, Enjoy comes up, which has an odd pattern and weird beat, but it comes together to be a pretty nice track. Elbow Macaroni is a pretty funny skit, followed by I Am Everything. The beat of IAE is REALLY nice. A rockish feel to it, which compliments Tech N9ne and Jared (of (hed) P.E.)'s flows. Not so much the Kottonmouth Kings, though. The last few tracks are all personal ones. Happy Ending is a nice track, with a piano-laced beat. Tech speaks on how he'll only be completely happy after he's able to make his kids happy, which will probably be after his career/life is over. Can't Shake It has Krizz Kaliko singing once again, which adds a lot to the track. Tech's verses are nice and personal, but it doesn't really stand out to me. Holier Than Thou is a pretty epic feeling track. You get two verses from Tech and a verse from Krizz over a Church-like beat and a choir-type hook. Another high-point on the album. Last Words has everything else Tech wanted to say. Speaks on how he feels. Speaks on how and why he acts. A GREAT way to end the album. Overall: I'd give the album a 8.5/10. This is definitely not Tech's strongest release, but definitely not his worst. It's a pretty good release, but it didn't live up to, in my opinion, what Tech said it would be. "All Killer, No Filler." I definitely recommend it, though. Recommend Tracks: One Good Time, Last Words, Holier Than Thou, Psycho Bitch II, I Love You, But F*ck You Stay Away From: Sh*t Is Real, Pillow Talkin', And the last two verses of Get The F*ck Outta Here |
This is shaping up to be a great thread, I'll be checking out your reviews.
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Suffer In Style - Look Daggers http://www.upabove.com/admin/web/dat...daggers402.jpg Look Daggers is a group that I am definitely looking forward to hearing more from. Look Daggers consists of 2Mex (of the Visionaries) and Isaiah "Ikey" Owens (of The Mars Volta/De Facto/Free Moral Agents). This CD has probably been slept on, and will not get the credit it deserves. It's one of my favorites from 2008. Suffer In Style starts off with an Introlude, but it's nothing special, and no real lyrics are in it. After the Intro, the album gets off to a nice start with That Look. The Production fits pretty well with 2Mex's voice and rhyme patterns. Call U Later is the first single off Suffer In Style, and is definitely a great choice. Production is nice, once again, 2Mex has a slightly-rapid flow, and the hook is sang by Mendee Ichikawa, and is altogether a high-point of the album. Before You Say No has a kind of melodic-type beat and rhythm, and is one of the more relaxing tracks. Youth Is Getting Restless comes next, and has more of an aggressive feel. The beat has some pretty odd sound effects, but that's not a bad thing. This track comes together pretty well, and 2Mex does his thing. Valiant is one of the faster-paced tracks on this album, and does a good job at keeping you listening at the half-way point of the album. Know Turning Back is the first, and only, low-point of the album. It's mostly instrumental, and while it's fine, it could have been better with actual lyrics put to it. After the last track, I was hoping for something to make me focus a bit more on the album. Beautiful Freak does a pretty good job at doing just that. It starts out with some pretty melodic female vocals, and then goes to 2Mex with a talk-rap flow. I don't know how he does it, but it sounds awesome on this track. Now onto the longest track on the album, Shades of Orange. The first minute and a half of this track is all instrumental, but it's a solid effort at building up to 2Mex's lyrics. The only problem is the cool-down after his lyrics. There's about three minutes of instrumental left after 2Mex finishes rapping, and sounds like it's the end of the album. You're Not Talking To Me is a softer track, but finds a nice place for itself on the album. The album would not be complete without it. Now, for another favorite of mine. New Wave Spazout is definitely a more off-the-wall track, but the efforts of Ikey and 2Mex both come together to make a brilliant track. One of, if not THE, best tracks on the album. Falcon Gentle is a decent track, but feels a little dull, until about the middle. After "Shades of Orange" Final Toss feels like the second outro track. The only difference is that this one is at the end of the album. Final Toss definitely finishes the album off strongly, and makes you wish there was more to it. Overall: 9.5/10. This CD, in my honest opinion, was phenomenal, and although it had a couple weak moments, nothing really hurt it that much. Everything on the CD is listenable, and has definitely been a favorite of mine since I've had it. I highly recommend this album to everyone. Recommend Tracks: Call U Later, Valiant, New Wave Spazout, Before You Say No, That Look Stay Away From: Know Turning Back, but only after you've listened to it a couple times. |
I'd give The Weatherman LP a 7/10. I haven't heard Killer or Suffer in Style yet.
On a separate note, I'm pretty sure Killer and Suffer in Style aren't considered underground rap. |
How would they not be considered underground rap?
Neither of them (Tech N9ne / Look Daggers) have had major radio or TV time, and are both a step away from the everyday Rap / Hip-Hop that you'd hear on the radio. Also, they're both independent as you can get. Also, if you haven't heard them, how do you know if they're considered underground rap? |
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I don't think Tech N9ne could be considered "Gangsta Rap", because he isn't all about gangs and has more of a variety when it comes to his music. He has varying styles (club, dark, hardcore, personal) and has built the empire that he has without much radio play at all.
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Well, gangsta rap has an edgy, noisy sound and evolved out of hardcore rap.Lyrically, it's just as abrasive, as the rappers spun profane, gritty tales about urban crime. Sometimes the lyrics were an accurate reflection of reality; other times, they were exaggerated comic book stories. While I wouldn't consider Anghellic gangsta rap and I don't know about Killer, Absolute Power and Vintage Tech are most definitely gangsta rap and anyone who disagrees is deaf.
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Gangsta rap is a term originated by the mainstream media to describe a certain subgenre of hip hop music which developed during the late 1980s. It is a genre of hip hop that reflects the violent lifestyles of some inner-city youths. ~ Google
I would like you to point out how Tech N9ne represents inner-city violence |
Isn't that what I just said?
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You're missing the point of my post.
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Have you heard Absolute Power? Listen to "Slither" for starters.
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I don't see how going to a strip club, and the strippers ending up being vampires is "Gangsta" Rap
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Also, "Here Comes Tecca Nina", "Slacker", "Gunz Will Bust", etc.
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Gunz Will Bust is the only song that comes close to Gangsta Rap, and that's mainly because it has Skatterman & Snug Brim.
I still say he's underground. That's all. |
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This has been the most exciting night of your life, hasn't it? Also, gangsta rap lyrics from "Slacker": I stay rid of you lames (yaw ***) and play Video games (all day) what Kansas City, MO brangs Is gritty slow gain we ditty bop wit really no change (yaw pay) And people holla how you do that there Why your pants hangin' low and why you grew that hair Lightin' a bleezle with my people Ridin' a regal always in trouble wit coppers cause we drivin' illegal |
Getting trolled? It's happened before.
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Great start with the Tech N9ne review. I'm hoping to see some gems among this list. :D
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Thanks, dreadnaught.
As I said, I highly recommend the Suffer In Style album. |
I've heard a handful of T9ne Nine, from way back.. I can't even remember what the songs consisted of anymore.. I just remember my mind being blown.
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shut up about tech n9ne being gangsta already. I'm just as gangsta as he is.
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http://designermagazine.tripod.com/D...zALBUMPIC2.jpg Revolutionary But Gangsta By dead prez 1 Don't Forget Where U Came From 2 Walk Like a Warrior 3 I Have a Dream, Too 4 D.O.W.N. 5 Hell Yeah (Pimp the System) 6 W-4 7 Radio Freq 8 Fucked Up 9 50 in the Clip 10 Way of Life 11 Don't Forget Where U Goin RBG is a concept album about a person who commits a lot foc rime and cause a lot of trouble, but also is a political activist and avid member of his community. It starts out with a gritty anthem about the wrongs of pedodogy. It is one of the more impressive tracks, pretty much because the duo of dead prez have some of the best beats I have ever heard, and it shows in the opening track. Walk Like A Warrior is one of their many tracks about overcoming racism, it comes off as one of the weaker tracks, but guest Krayzie Bone impresses, and it makes for a very good collab. The next track is the second best on the album. It also deals with racism, and is very upfront about. That's one of the things I like about dead prez, they're very blunt about their message, the con to that is that their lyrics are just sub-par. Hell Yeah is where the album's themes turn from racism to a more "Fuck Welfare" type themes. dead prez really shows off their production skills in this track, but the lyrics are pretty weak. Radio Freq is the best song on the album. Lyrically, it impresses because the lyricism is at a level that you don't excpect from dead prez, and they use that to show the struggle depicted in the song. Way of Life and the closing track sum up the entire premise of the album, closing the story perfectly by mixing undertoned sampling with with a great production value that it's a reasonably amzing pair of tracks all considered. In one word I would describe this album as "different". Yes it has it's weak spots lyrically, but it never fails when it comes to all the other parts of that make hip-hop good. Overall Score: 7/10 |
I actually don't have a Dead Prez album, any help pretty pleeeease?
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I gotcha covered.
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I have the Dead Prez album 'Let's Get Free' and I like it a lot but I have'nt took my listening any further. I would'nt mind checking that out.
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http://trinotron.files.wordpress.com...front-2008.jpg This was released for free, so I'll post the link at the end of the review. All in all, this is one of my favorite mixtapes from 2008. KiD CuDi was introduced to me while listening to a mixtape (I believe it was DJ E-V's "I Run Ohio") and I've been hooked to his music since. He's had a hit come out called Day N Nite and it has gotten him some notoriety with a lot of people on the web and in the industry (KanYe West signed him to his label G.O.O.D. Music). The album starts out strong with a nice intro and the track "Down & Out". There isn't really much to say about this, except that I would pay full CD price for this mixtape, if possible. I love just about everything about it. Just listen to it. 9/10 Free Legal Download |
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...hrisisdead.jpg mc chris is dead By mc chris I'm a fan of all five of Chris's albums, but hs latest release is by far his best. It's upbeat, cathcy, witty, and produced to a tee. The album starts out with the title track. It sets the mood for the entire album. Mostly about lost love, and not being famous. Older Crowd is an amazing track. I love the techno aspect, and the remix factor. The nest two tracks Reese and Pizza butt, are the worst on the album, they're not that bad, but don't compare to the amazing last half of this album. Hoodie Ninja is just a fun track it really doesn't have much meaning, but it's great to just go crazy too. mc chris always includes a few skits, and this next one Metaphor, is by far his best, it's hilarious, and satires everything chris has done. Honestly though, on* is a terrible, terrible track. I always skip it, because it bores the sh*t out of me. Kill It kind of goes back to his older songs from Lifes A Bitch and I'm Her Pimp, that almost sound like a freestyle, and have an actual chorus. It's kind of boring though honestly. Now this is where the album gets really good. Maybe I'm just a sucker for sappy love songs with 5th grade level ryhme, but Rollercoaster always gets me tapping my feet, and occasionaly singing along. I still don't know ho wi feel about nrrrd grrrl. Sometimes I really love it, and sometimes it's really boring. That's my one problem with mc chris(who's one of my favorite rappers by the way), a lot of his songs are boring, and eve more are those occasionaly boring/annoyig songs like nrrrd grrrl. Really metaphor is the only skit I like by chris, an example of his terrible ones is the next track, magic. It's not as bad as some of his others, but it takes so long to get going that I usually skip it. Falynn is an even sappier love song, but it's so catchy that if you get this album this is probably the song you'll listen to the most. The Masturbation Song, is okay, but it tries too hard to be funny, and ends up ot being as good as other songs on the album. Also, it's another track that takes awhile to get going, which bores me. The best song on the album is asily Freaks, it's one of my favorite rap songs ever actually. I just love everything about. The amusing lyrics, awesome beats, and concept that is really relatable. The album comes to a cose with Never give Up with Andrew W. K. It's a good end to the album, and an underrated song by him, also probably W.K.'s best work. Overall, I really really love this album even if it has a few filler tracks it still continues to impress me everytime I hear it. 9.5/10 |
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I completely forgot about this thread.
Expect me to start reviewing more, as I am out of school/have free time/bored. |
Do Smiff n Wessun
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Which album?
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Da Shinin', I guess. Whichever really. 's your thread.
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Wow what a great thread. I should do another review.
Next up: It's Not A Rumour-Akala yoyoyoyoyo-Spank Rock |
I actually really dislike Spankrock. I don't get all the love he gets.
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