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Old 09-01-2018, 08:50 PM   #551 (permalink)
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Because the scene from "The Interview" revealed he's actually gay. Ergo, he couldn't be homophobic whatsoever.
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Old 09-01-2018, 08:51 PM   #552 (permalink)
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Yeah it does. And gay people get to decide this, not straight people.
So what if a gay person disagrees with you?

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Just like black people get to decide if they feel the use of the n-word is ever appropriate or excusable (note: it's not, ever, and it's not debatable).
It is debatable, but we're not really discussing whether people can decide how they feel about things.

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Faggot is an offensive word meant to belittle a specific group of people, even when it references people who aren't gay. Insulting someone by calling them a faggot is deeply homophobic, always, even if that person officiates a gay wedding the next day. People who have no prejudice towards gay people wouldn't dream about using the f-word in any context because they understand how deeply offensive and hurtful that word is to gay people.
Yet you've just used it?

You're not arguing the same thing as me. It's a homophobic word, but you can use it without being homophobic.
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Old 09-01-2018, 08:52 PM   #553 (permalink)
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Milo is okay with the word therefore it's okay because it's gay approved.
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Old 09-01-2018, 09:01 PM   #554 (permalink)
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No one's seems to mention his blatant rip off of that Beastie Boys cover. Eminem is so fucking annoying.
It’s a tribute not a rip off
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Old 09-01-2018, 09:03 PM   #555 (permalink)
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Old 09-01-2018, 09:34 PM   #556 (permalink)
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So what if a gay person disagrees with you?
"A", single gay person? Or 5 gay people? Or a thousand? They would still be in the vast minority of gay people (and obviously brainwashed into thinking it's somehow ok). The general consensus is that it's offensive and should not be used.
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Yet you've just used it?
I haven't used it to describe anybody, and I never would, obviously. I merely acknowledged its existence.

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You're not arguing the same thing as me. It's a homophobic word, but you can use it without being homophobic.
Nope. You can't. Sorry to burst your bubble. There is no way of using it (against someone) in a non-homophobic way because the essential idea of using it against someone is to disparage that person and gay people as a group. Same thing with the n-word or any number of other offensive terms used throughout the world to belittle and discriminate against another group of people.

As OH has so succinctly put it, n-word=f-word. I've spoken about this in my thread about the leeway rap gets to have about this while no one would dream about using the n-word in a similar context, which only indicates how much further we have to go to eradicate casual and other kind of homophobia.

Btw, to be specific, this is the full lyric:

"Tyler create nothin', I see why you called yourself a f****t, bitch
It's not just 'cause you lack attention
It's because you worship D12's balls, you're sack-religious
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Belittling a man by implying they suck another man's balls is not homophobic to you?
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If you’re afraid to say n igger you shouldn’t say f aggot either
And God never say them together either.
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Sucking another man's balls is inherently belittling? Tone down the homophobia mate.
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"A", single gay person? Or 5 gay people? Or a thousand? They would still be in the vast minority of gay people (and obviously brainwashed into thinking it's somehow ok). The general consensus is that it's offensive and should not be used.
Because they don't share your opinion, they're obviously brainwashed?

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I haven't used it to describe anybody, and I never would, obviously. I merely acknowledged its existence.
You said people with no prejudice toward gay people wouldn't use it in "any context", so it having to be used in the context of describing someone doesn't matter.

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Nope. You can't. Sorry to burst your bubble. There is no way of using it (against someone) in a non-homophobic way
You are arguing against something I haven't said. I said you can use it without being homophobic, as in, a non homophobic person could use that word and they wouldn't suddenly be a homophobe just because they have used that word.

Obviously if you use a homophobic slur intended as a homophobic slur then it's use is homophobic but that's not what I'm saying.

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Belittling a man by implying they suck another man's balls is not homophobic to you?
Whether it is or it isn't, that's not what I'm arguing.
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Sucking another man's balls is inherently belittling? Tone down the homophobia mate.
Sigh. Your trolling is really tiresome, especially when you think you're being clever. Go away please.

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Because they don't share your opinion, they're obviously brainwashed?
Yes, much like abused women who don't think they are abused because their abusive partners only do it because they love them. People can say and think many things, the objective truth is another thing.

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You said people with no prejudice toward gay people wouldn't use it in "any context", so it having to be used in the context of describing someone doesn't matter.
It absolutely matters, don't be obtuse for argument's sake.

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You are arguing against something I haven't said. I said you can use it without being homophobic, as in, a non homophobic person could use that word and they wouldn't suddenly be a homophobe just because they have used that word.
Give me an example of someone using "faggot" to describe another person without it being homophobic.

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Obviously if you use a homophobic slur intended as a homophobic slur then it's use is homophobic
Which is what Eminem did here.

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Whether it is or it isn't, that's not what I'm arguing.
What you're arguing is that Eminem is not homophobic because he bought a gay couple a cock ring once. C'mon!
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